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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    I did not make that distinction, Mosaic civil law did include moral and religious prohibitions. It was a theocracy after all.
    Thanks for the clarification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    You really suck at logic. I don't engage in homosexuality because:
    A) I have no desire to, and
    2) If I did, I'd have to decide whether I wanted to obey the Word of God, or live in sin.
    In all honesty I cannot understand why all women aren't lesbian because there is absolutely nothing attractive about men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post


    There were actually three classes of laws:
    A) Judicial
    2) Moral
    iii) Ceremonial
    You are correct there are three distinct areas, but they all are part of the Mosaic law.
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    You are correct there are three distinct areas, but they all are part of the Mosaic law.
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    Every problem is the result of a previous solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    yes
    Well - it is a mosaic law, after all.

    1 Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω

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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    Yes he did order their execution under the Mosaic Civil Code.
    And Jesus personally reinforced this right? Oh wait, Jesus didn't mention homosexuality did he? He talked about fornication, adultery, lust, marriage, divorce, and other aspects of sexuality. But he never mentioned same-sex sexual relations. He seemed more focused on loving people.
    “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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    Strange thing that. Jesus addressed matters where there was error or deficiency in understanding by conventional attitudes ... but he never mentioned homosexuality.
    Last edited by tabibito; 05-12-2019 at 09:21 PM.
    1 Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    It's right there, Tass - you accidentally said something true, then you tried to wiggle out of it. You have the credibility of snail poop.


    Yes, your typical anti-Christian rant. That has NOTHING to do with what Buttigieg is doing, because he's not trying to interpret scripture at all - he's just flat out ignoring it. Just like you're totally ignoring Mohler's critique of Buttigieg's "Christianity".
    Critique of Buttigieg's "Christianity" is not the argument.

    And, as your hero Mohler pointed out, that's pretty much asinine.
    Of course, a Baptist theologian would say that but this is not the argument.

    The argument is that Christians throughout history have interpreted scripture so as to conform to the social mores of the of the day. And reinterpret it as societal values change. E.g many Southern US Baptists justified slavery with quotes from scripture until the practice of slavery became socially intolerable. So, in 1995, they “unwaveringly denounced racism, in all its forms, as deplorable sin”.

    Here's what's happening -- Buttigieg is a homosexual, so you will do or say absolutely anything to defend him, however irrational or nutty.
    I’m neither defending nor condemning him, merely making the case that he’s just as entitled to his opinion as a Christian as you and Mohler are.

    Social values are changing re homosexuality and, given biblical history, Christians will revise biblical interpretation to accommodate it…just as they did re the abolition of slavery, apartheid in South Africa, and the role of women etc.
    “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tabibito View Post
    Strange thing that. Jesus addressed matters where there was error or deficiency in understanding by conventional attitudes ... but he never mentioned homosexuality.
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    The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

    I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    And Jesus personally reinforced this right? Oh wait, Jesus didn't mention homosexuality did he? He talked about fornication, adultery, lust, marriage, divorce, and other aspects of sexuality. But he never mentioned same-sex sexual relations. He seemed more focused on loving people.
    So what? He didn't say anything about rape either, and loving others? You mean the parts about sending people to hell?
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

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