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  • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    The Holy Spirit.
    Is this the same Holy Spirit that “authorized” Paul to restrict women from teaching, leading, or speaking during worship gatherings.

    The road to Damascus. (You really need to try reading the Bible)
    Some attribute this vision to an epileptic seizure, it has all the characteristics of one. It seems Muhammad was similarly afflicted.

    Of course they do --- they want to sin and feel good about it!
    Of course. Homosexuals couldn’t possibly be genuine and sincere about believing in an inclusive and loving Jesus.

    OTOH, it seems that Christians have been able to reexamine and dismiss what Paul said about slaves in Romans, Corinthians, and Timothy 1, but are not as yet prepared to do the same about what he said regarding homosexuals. But they will. Scripture has always been helpful in validating the social mores of the day.
    “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      He didn't have to say anything about rape, because it was pretty much universally known that it was a bad thing
      It was and is bad because it an act of violence against an unwilling victim.

      Kinda like homosexuality.
      Only in the case of homosexual rape.

      He DID speak against fornication, which even includes a wide number of "informed consent" partnerships. In fact - all "informed consent" acts outside marriage.
      “Fornication” has negative connotations, which do not apply to sex within a loving relationship.

      So, your "informed consent" excuse is toast.
      …as opposed to not consenting to a sexual encounter you mean?
      “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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      • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        Jesus loves them and wants to forgive them, and tells them to sin no more. Repentance is vital.
        So, unlike Jesus, YHWH didn't love them, so had them stoned or burnt to death. You actually believe that was the word of your god, to burn and stone to death witches, homosexuals, people with other religions, adulterers, children who cursed their parents etc.?

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        • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
          Whereas your biggest problem is snipping posts
          It's not a problem at all! You say something stupid, and I ignore it. EasyPeasy!
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • Originally posted by JimL View Post
            So, unlike Jesus...
            You'll meet Him one day, you can ask Him yourself.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
              “Fornication” has negative connotations, which do not apply to sex within a loving relationship.
              Yeah, well, this wouldn't be the first time you've been at odds with what Jesus actually taught.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                Some attribute this vision to an epileptic seizure, it has all the characteristics of one. It seems Muhammad was similarly afflicted.
                That could explain the vast majority of your posts!
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                  Again: “Buttigieg clearly views scripture differently from those who want to condemn homosexuality,...
                  Reverend Tassman, you have NO WAY OF KNOWING how Buttigieg views scripture. NOT A CLUE!

                  You have been challenged to produce ANYTHING that shows that Buttigieg actually considered the scripture in question, and you have failed repeatedly to do so. It is FAR more likely that he simply ignores the passages that directly address homosexuality.

                  All you do is spew forth nonsense and obfuscation.

                  Perhaps you can show me a copy of the email where Buttigieg has authorized an anti-Christian internet bigot to be his spokesperson?
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    You'll meet Him one day, you can ask Him yourself.
                    No I won't, he died over two thousand years ago, CP. Besides that, I'm asking you. Do you honestly believe that your god commanded those people to be burnt or stoned to death?

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                    • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                      No I won't, he died over two thousand years ago, CP.
                      You have a well established habit of being wrong about an incredibly wide range of topics.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        You have a well established habit of being wrong about an incredibly wide range of topics.
                        You're the one who fell for, and continue to defend, the crooked, treasonous, autocratic, con man, CP. Can't get any wronger than that!

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                        • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                          Whereas your biggest problem is snipping posts (in this instance an entire sentence reduced to three words) in order to make a smart-alecky comment.

                          Again: “Buttigieg clearly views scripture differently from those who want to condemn homosexuality, just as South Africa used it to proclaim the Immorality Act condemning mixing the races. Scripture has been very helpful in validating the personal prejudices of the day, whether homosexuality, witch-killing, slave ownership, or resisting female emancipation.
                          how do you know how Buttigieg views scripture on homosexuality if you can't cite even one case of his referring to scripture regarding homosexuality?

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                          • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                            You're the one who fell for, and continue to defend, the crooked, treasonous, autocratic, con man, CP. Can't get any wronger than that!
                            You're cute when you attempt to hurl insults, Jim.
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                            • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                              Is this the same Holy Spirit that “authorized” Paul to restrict women from teaching, leading, or speaking during worship gatherings.
                              Seems strange that for the first 300 years or so of Christianity, no-one considered Paul's comments about women to have been generally applicable. The churches muddled along quite happily thinking it was acceptable to have women in positions of authority. Even Paul himself failed to realise that women were prohibited from positions of authority throughout the church - women were permitted to pray and prophesy in the assembly (according to Paul) and he even named an apostle who was a woman. Of course, once the church had submitted to the mores of its culture and time, then women were relegated to second-class within the church.

                              Of course. Homosexuals couldn’t possibly be genuine and sincere about believing in an inclusive and loving Jesus.
                              Sincere is believable, but correct is another matter. There is nothing about an inclusive Jesus advocated or presented by the Bible.

                              OTOH, it seems that Christians have been able to reexamine and dismiss what Paul said about slaves in Romans, Corinthians, and Timothy 1, but are not as yet prepared to do the same about what he said regarding homosexuals. But they will. Scripture has always been helpful in validating the social mores of the day.
                              Out of context readings might have Romans advocating slavery - but so thoroughly out of context that it would seem so only to someone profoundly functionally illiterate. The same is almost true of Corinthians: except that "profoundly" might not apply. Of course 1 Timothy does exhort slaves to honour their masters, so there is something that might be said in criticism of that one reference.
                              1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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                              Scripture before Tradition:
                              but that won't prevent others from
                              taking it upon themselves to deprive you
                              of the right to call yourself Christian.

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                              • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                                how do you know how Buttigieg views scripture on homosexuality if you can't cite even one case of his referring to scripture regarding homosexuality?
                                The same way that he knows that Trump is a "crooked, treasonous, autocratic, con man" who colluded with the Russians to steal the 2016 election. He just "knows" it.



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