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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Paster CP, you seem not to realize that the God of the covenant with the Jews is the same god of the new covenant. They are the same god, CP. Stoning human beings to death for picking up sticks on the Sabbath is either immoral or it is not, yet the biblical god contradicts himself. Or perhaps you think that as long as god does it, nothing is immoral.
    Yeah. But he changed his mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    So, now you're a mind reader, too? You can't seem to keep your arguments straight --- YOU claimed the had a different interpretation of the scriptures, yet you keep failing to prove that, Rev Tassman.
    You are the “mind reader” by insisting that Buttigieg ignores scripture he doesn't like. You don’t know that. He is an intelligent, well-educated, practicing Christian. It is far more likely that he has come to his conclusions regarding homosexuality via his understanding of scripture than otherwise.

    Have you no shame or decency?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Yeah, he clearly has decided to do "what was right in his own eyes."
    He has clearly has decided to do "what was right” as he understands “right” to be. This has been true of Christians throughout the Ages. The scriptures have always been made to conform to the social values of the day.

    And guess what. Regardless of what he sees the adulterer, fornicator or homosexual who is not fighting temptation is indeed sinning.
    “And guess what”, homophobes will always be judgmental bigots hiding behind their scriptures, just as slave owners were in an earlier era.
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    @ Tassman

    Do we take it that you are on board with all those other things in that same list (including gossip) being moral wrongs? The only one you complain about is homosexuality ... some sort of fixation maybe?

    Is it OK for gossips to have no access to heaven, but not homosexuals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tabibito View Post
    @ Tassman

    Do we take it that you are on board with all those other things in that same list (including gossip) being moral wrongs? The only one you complain about is homosexuality ... some sort of fixation maybe?

    Is it OK for gossips to have no access to heaven, but not homosexuals?
    The topic is Buttigieg’s homosexuality, is it not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    The topic is Buttigieg’s homosexuality, is it not?
    Your point is valid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    You are the “mind reader” by insisting that Buttigieg ignores scripture he doesn't like.
    You're the Bozo who claims he "interprets them differently", yet you can't point to a single quote where he considers scripture at all!

    You don’t know that.
    I know you haven't produced a single example of Buttigieg giving his own interpretation. That's been your claim, though you seem to wish you hand't made that claim.

    He is an intelligent, well-educated, practicing Christian.
    If Christianity were illegal, there wouldn't even be enough evidence to arrest Buttigieg, let alone indict or prosecute.

    It is far more likely that he has come to his conclusions regarding homosexuality via his understanding of scripture than otherwise.
    And there you are - attempting to read his mind. That's not at all what you claimed.

    Fact: Homosexuality is condemned in the New Testament
    Fact: "Practicing Christians" honor the New Testament
    Fact: Buttigieg is a practicing homosexual
    Fact: You can't produce a single example of Buttigieg referencing the scriptures condemning homosexuality

    Logical conclusion: Buttigieg simply ignores those scriptures that condemn his lifestyle.

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    So, what we know is that Buttigieg is a practicing homosexual. He's quite proud of that.
    What we do NOT know is that Buttigieg is a practicing Christian. There's not much proof of that.

    In fact, Buttigieg speaks proudly, relentlessly and profusely of his homosexuality, and abortion on demand for virtually any stage of pregnancy.
    He does NOT speak of Christ, Salvation, sin, confession, repentance --- in that way, he's almost exactly like Trump.

    Still searching for any hint that Buttigieg is actually a "practicing Christian", I find nothing.

    However, according to Tassman's favorite authority on the faith, Albert Mohler....

    Yet, Buttigieg demands that evangelical Christians ‘evolve’ their understanding of holy Scripture. The biblically orthodox interpretation of sexuality represents an antiquated morality from a culturally dated book. In Buttigieg’s view, we ought to keep the universal principles but jettison the culturally and socially inconvenient passages that do not square with our modern, moral ideology. Christians must, in short, redefine biblical sexuality in unbiblical terms.


    "Jettison the culturally and socially inconvenient passages"? As I have been stating, and Tassman has been incapable of countering, Buttigieg makes no attempt whatsoever to "interpret" the Bible - he simply ignores the scripture that deals with his choice to live in sin - in effect, giving the Bible the middle finger.

    And this, from the same source...

    Try as he may, Buttigieg and progressive, liberal Protestantism cannot contort the Scriptures and make Jesus an advocate for abortion and gay marriage. To do so means that entire passages of the Bible must be ripped out of their context or denied completely.


    What kind of "practicing Christian" does that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Try as he may, Buttigieg and progressive, liberal Protestantism cannot contort the Scriptures and make Jesus an advocate for abortion and gay marriage. To do so means that entire passages of the Bible must be ripped out of their context or denied completely.


    What kind of "practicing Christian" does that?
    The kind Tassman likes?

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