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[Tassman]

Of course, one wonders how many of those Christians who hold that opinion are actually committed believers themselves. I would think the statistics would look considerably different if it was possible to remove all of the non-committal, "name-only" Christians from the statistics.

[JonathanL]

Lutheranism (Even Confessional Lutheranism) is not a form of "Evangelical Christianity", atleast not in the way "Evangelical" is usually defined. But I'm not assuming that every Christian who differs from my form of Christianity is not a real Christian, or even non-committal in their beliefs. Committed Catholics and Orthodox believers would certainly differ from "my form of Evangelical Christianity" for example, but I would still not discount their opinion on this issue. My assumption is simply that the majority of Christians in the US, irrespective of denomination, are non-committal.

[rogue06]

Indeed, there are, but Buttigieg is not one of them. He believes that one can be a committed Christian and a practicing homosexual. And his views reflect majority opinion within US Christianity according to the statistics.

And yet what remains lacking is Buttigieg himself ever saying anything about him being a committed/practicing Christian. And therein lies the problem.

[NorrinRadd]

If one defines "Christian" as a "saved person," I would say that it is marginally conceivable that Buttgiggy is a genuine Christian, but I would say his "practice" is severely defective and likely ultimately destructive (meaning leading to apostasy and damnation).

[Tassman]

Lutheranism (Even Confessional Lutheranism) is not a form of "Evangelical Christianity", atleast not in the way "Evangelical" is usually defined. But I'm not assuming that every Christian who differs from my form of Christianity is not a real Christian, or even non-committal in their beliefs. Committed Catholics and Orthodox believers would certainly differ from "my form of Evangelical Christianity" for example, but I would still not discount their opinion on this issue. My assumption is simply that the majority of Christians in the US, irrespective of denomination, are non-committal.

Perhaps non-committal but if pressed would probably (albeit defensively) defend their Christianity and their views as such.

[Tassman]

And yet what remains lacking is Buttigieg himself ever saying anything about him being a committed/practicing Christian. And therein lies the problem.

https://religionnews.com/2019/04/17/...religion-card/

And here:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/3342767002/

[Cow Poke]

Indeed, there are, but Buttigieg is not one of them. He believes that one can be a committed Christian and a practicing homosexual. And his views reflect majority opinion within US Christianity according to the statistics.

You don't know SQUAT about what Buttigieg believes because you just make things up from your own little drama world. He's a homosexual, so you're going to sing his praises endlessly.

[Cow Poke]

And yet what remains lacking is Buttigieg himself ever saying anything about him being a committed/practicing Christian. And therein lies the problem.

Tassman will invent something. He's THAT desperate for Buttigieg to be a "for really Christian", even though Tassman is an anti-Christian bigot himself.

[Cow Poke]

Laughing.... 2,000 years of Christianity based on personal testimony, and Tassman tosses all that away.... this is hysterical. What a bloomin' idiot!

[Cow Poke]

Yes, you just proved my point -- Buttigieg is perverting Christianity to support his own twisted Liberation Theology and his political campaign to be POTUS, as his own brother-in-law suggests.

Thanks, Tass, you're a sweetie.

[Cow Poke]

Here again:

https://religionnews.com/2019/04/17/...religion-card/

And in THAT link, the article is headlined Buttigieg plays the religion card

Yup! That's EGGZackly what he's doing, according to his own brother-in-law.

Thanks again, Tass!

[Sparko]

here is an interesting table:

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Shows that those that believe homosexuality should be accepted don't bother to read scripture.

[Cow Poke]

here is an interesting table:

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Shows that those that believe homosexuality should be accepted don't bother to read scripture.

Wouldn't you say that "reading scripture" (at least occasionally) is one of the "practices" of "practicing Christians"?

I would love for Tassman to list the "practices" that "practicing Christian Buttigieg" actually practices.

(Though, you may have noted that he's morphed "practicing Christian" into "committed Christian".

[Sparko]

Wouldn't you say that "reading scripture" (at least occasionally) is one of the "practices" of "practicing Christians"?

I would love for Tassman to list the "practices" that "practicing Christian Buttigieg" actually practices.

(Though, you may have noted that he's morphed "practicing Christian" into "committed Christian".

Yep. it seems that the less a person bothers to read the bible, the more they are influenced by the world instead of by God.

another table showing this:

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https://www.pewforum.org/religious-l...homosexuality/

[Cow Poke]

Yep. it seems that the less a person bothers to read the bible, the more they are influenced by the world instead of by God.

another table showing this:

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https://www.pewforum.org/religious-l...homosexuality/

Which is why, when Tassman claimed that Buttigieg "interprets those passages differently", I countered with "he totally ignores them". As you have stated, he's a "Cafeteria Christian" at best - picking and choosing only the green jello and desserts, and ignoring the meat and potatoes.

(it was interesting that Tassman interpreted "Cafeteria Christian" as an admission that Buttigieg is, indeed, a for really Christian.