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  • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    If there was anything criminal or irregular in Trump's tax returns then you can be sure the IRS would have caught it. Trump is under no legal obligation to make his tax returns public. However, he is required to submit an annual financial disclosure report which he has dutiful done for the past three years and which show far more detail than his tax returns ever would, but it's been a non-story because there is nothing suspicious in them, and since they're public record, you can be sure his political enemies have gone over them with a fine-tooth comb looking for anything to pin on him.

    Face it, ox, you're chasing after another nothing-burger.
    Untrue. I am not 'chasing' anything. I am trying to discuss how reasonable it might be for us to expect Trump to show us his tax returns.

    Jim
    My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

    If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

    This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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    • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
      Untrue. I am not 'chasing' anything. I am trying to discuss how reasonable it might be for us to expect Trump to show us his tax returns.

      Jim
      I suspect it's not gonna happen - he got elected once without having to reveal them, and I suspect he'll risk that again.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        Ya know, this sudden re-focus on Trump's tax returns pretty much tells you that the liberals have given up on any hope of the Mueller report felling their adversary.
        Not really. They are independent issues and have been a focus for a long time. Mostly because Trump refuses to release them, indicating he has something in them he wishes to hide. When the Democrats took control of the House, from day 1 they have vowed to get his tax returns. The current focus stems from Trump's refusal to provide them by the specified deadline.

        Jim
        My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

        If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

        This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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        • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          I suspect it's not gonna happen - he got elected once without having to reveal them, and I suspect he'll risk that again.
          Well no, he'll never release them himself.

          But I don't see why the congress would not have the right to subpoena them. If they have that authority, they will get them.


          Jim
          My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

          If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

          This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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          • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
            Well no, he'll never release them himself.

            But I don't see why the congress would not have the right to subpoena them. If they have that authority, they will get them.
            And assuming they do, what do you expect to be found that the IRS didn’t find?
            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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            • Originally posted by oxmixmuddle View Post
              Untrue. I am not 'chasing' anything. I am trying to discuss how reasonable it might be for us to expect Trump to show us his tax returns.
              Who cares? Trump's tax returns are none of our business.
              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
              Than a fool in the eyes of God


              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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              • Originally posted by oxmixmuddle View Post
                I don't see why the congress would not have the right to subpoena them.
                Because there is no legal reason whatsoever why Trump needs to release them. It's nothing more than a fishing expedition on the part of Democrats.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                  Because there is no legal reason whatsoever why Trump needs to release them. It's nothing more than a fishing expedition on the part of Democrats.
                  You act like Donald Trump is some perfectly innocent fellow and the Democrats are just being mean.



                  Jim
                  My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                  If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                  This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                  • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                    Who cares? Trump's tax returns are none of our business.
                    Obviously almost all of the presidents before him would disagree.

                    Jik
                    My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                    If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                    This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                    • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                      Not really. They are independent issues and have been a focus for a long time.
                      Not really. The MSM seems incapable of handling more than one major story at a time.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                        You act like Donald Trump is some perfectly innocent fellow
                        He's not.

                        and the Democrats are just being mean.



                        Jim
                        They are.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          Ya know, this sudden re-focus on Trump's tax returns pretty much tells you that the liberals have given up on any hope of the Mueller report felling their adversary.
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                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • Originally posted by oxmixmuddle View Post
                            You act like Donald Trump is some perfectly innocent fellow and the Democrats are just being mean.
                            Legally, Trump is innocent for the very simple reason that one is innocent unless they are proven guilty, and there is no valid reason to subpoena his tax returns. And, no, "We want to see what he's hiding" is not a good reason. What reason is there to think that Trump is hiding anything, especially when he has complied with the law with his financial disclosure reports?

                            You conspiracy nuts are acting like there's going to be a line in Trump's tax returns labeled "Bribes received from Vladimir Putin", and then you'll be able to say, "Ah-ha! We finally got him!"

                            Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                            Obviously almost all of the presidents before him would disagree.
                            So what? It's still none of our business.
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                              Because there is no legal reason whatsoever why Trump needs to release them. It's nothing more than a fishing expedition on the part of Democrats.
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                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                              • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                He's not.



                                They are.
                                contextually, you can't split the two phrases - they function together to create a single idea.

                                Jim
                                My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                                If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                                This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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