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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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Originally posted by Charles View PostI am not too certain that there will not be any further digging into the details of some of the more complicated stuff Mueller points to.
I agree. I am not certain that is the only thing going on here though.
Some have pointed to the idea that this is up for the voters to decide the next time they vote. I like that idea. I am, however, a little afraid that people are stuck in their own positions, thinking in "us and them" to an extent that it wont have an effect on too many people.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by JimL View PostMueller didn't indict because in his opinion you can't indict a sitting President. That's why he left it up to Congress and there is plenty of evidence to prove, as far as I'm concerned, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the President is guilty of obstruction and that ties right in to the collusion aspect. The President is a scoundrel who thought he was above the law, and the only reason he has any chance of surviving this is because the many advisers that he ordered to commit obstruction refused to do so.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostAnd that's the rub, isn't it? There is nothing concrete to indict for obstruction - only innuendo and uncharitable applications of statements made in anger."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostHow do you know?That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Chuckles View PostThat is luckily also how things work over here, Sparko, and that is how it should be in the legal system. However, that does not change what the report clearly says. It says: "Fourth, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would state so. Based on the facts and applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment."
"If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly didnotcommit obstruction of justice, we would state so. Based on the facts and applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment."
Both statements say the exact same thing.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostYou enjoy watching people in disarray do you reverend?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostYour jibe indicates you are under the mistaken impression that "reverends" claim to be super-Christians.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post...there is plenty of evidence to prove, as far as I'm concerned, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the President is guilty of obstruction...
Really, if the evidence was as conclusive and damning as you claim then why did Mueller effectively say he had insufficient evidence to recommend indictment? For that matter, he could have, in good conscience, pulled a Comey and said that no reasonable prosecutor would press charges.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by JimL View PostDo you disagree with my so called talking points?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostYou don't provide many sources for the statements you make.
Bryon York, who did some quick analysis on the spending done in Battleground states.
Senate Intelligence Committee chairman Richard Burr, who gave specific amounts spent.
Colin Stretch, Facebook's general counsel, who noted that the ads equaled about 0.004% of the contents in News Feed, and that a decided majority of those who actually saw the ads only saw them after the election and that 25% of the ads were never seen by anyone before or after the election.
And in the next post I added
Facebook ads vice-president Rob Goldman who stated "I can say very definitively that swaying the election was *NOT* the main goal. The majority of the Russian ad spend happened AFTER the election"[1]
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who has been awfully hostile toward Trump[2], declaring that there is absolutely no evidence that a single vote was changed nor was the election outcome affected by Russia's meddling
FBI director Christopher Wray who said that the Russians "[tried] to destabilize the integrity of our system by usually backing losers and getting the losers all upset claiming something went awry, and that promotes disharmony and distrust of the election system." And as I noted, succeeded beyond what they thought possible in their wildest dreams thanks to the left.
Originally posted by Charles View PostAgain let's just look at what the report says:
They never thought Trump would win so helping him was never their goal. They wanted to cause trouble for what they thought was the inevitable Hillary Clinton Administration. As Facebook ads vice-president Rob Goldman noted "swaying the election was *NOT* the main goal" but rather "the main goal of the Russian propaganda and misinformation effort is to divide America by using our institutions, like free speech and social media, against us." This was confirmed by Christopher Wray when he said that the Russians "try to destabilize the integrity of our system by usually backing losers and getting the losers all upset claiming something went awry, and that promotes disharmony and distrust of the election system."
And again, thanks to the Democrats they succeeded beyond their wildest expectations.
Originally posted by Charles View PostAnd this is only focusing on social media platform. They did far more than that.
So what we have is
- a minuscule amount was spent.
- the ads equaled about 0.004% of the contents in News Feed
- a decided majority of those who actually saw the ads only saw them after the election.
- 25% of the ads were never seen by anyone before or after the election.
- and Facebook said "the vast majority [of them] didn't specifically reference the U.S. presidential election, voting or a particular candidate."
- the goal of the ads weren't to sway the election but to stir up trouble for the Hilary Administration after she was elected
- according to Rosenstein there's no evidence they even influenced a single vote
Fail better next time Faker Chuck. Or maybe you really should just
1. Please note that the portion of the Mueller Report you picked to quote even said that the "total the IRA-controlled accounts made over 80,000 posts before their deactivation in August 2017" That would be 21 months after the election. Tell me Faker Chuck, just how many votes were influenced during the 21 months AFTER the election?
2. He tried to get Trump staffers to secretly wear wires so as to gather evidence to impeach Trump and who after recommending the firing of James Comey then used his firing as a pretext to name a special prosecutor to investigate TrumpLast edited by rogue06; 04-19-2019, 10:43 AM.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by seer View PostWhat was he guilty of at that point Jim? Certainly not collusion. Perhaps he just knew that Special Prosecutors can ruin a presidency in other ways.
“The president returned to the consequences of the appointment and said, ‘Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency. It takes years and years and I won’t be able to do anything. This is the worse [sic] thing that ever happened to me.’”
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by JimL View PostAs I suspected, your waiting for the facts was, and is, a line of bs.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by JimL View PostAs I suspected, your waiting for the facts was, and is, a line of bs.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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