The Mueller Report

[mossrose]

No, it is our moral obligation to make sure that an immoral narcisistic autocrat who has no regard for the law doesn't represent the head of western democracy.

Yeah!

We already have Justin Trudeau in that position! Don't need no stinkin' American president, too!

[Mountain Man]

No, it is our moral obligation to make sure that an immoral narcisistic autocrat who has no regard for the law doesn't represent the head of western democracy.

And that's why Hillary isn't president.

[JimL]

And that's why Hillary isn't president.

No, actually Hillary isn't president because even though she got 3 million more votes than Trump, the Russians with the help of the Trump administration and specifically P. Manafort, conspired, the Russians using the Trump campaigns polling data and geographical targeting data to win the electoral college. Trump is illigitiment in the first place, and has proven his unfitness for the office in the second.

[Cow Poke]

No, actually Hillary isn't president because even though she got 3 million more votes....

Electoral College. That's how Hillary lost, fair and square.

[Mountain Man]

Hillary isn't president because even though she got 3 million more votes she received fewer electoral college votes than Trump...

[Cow Poke]

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[Mountain Man]

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The difference between Obama and Hillary is that Obama actually gave people a reason to vote for him. We can dispute the merits of those reasons, but the fact is, he still said, "If you elect me as president, then I will do A, B, and C." Hillary's entire campaign message seemed to be, "If you elect me as president, then I will be the first woman to hold that office, and I'm not Donald Trump."

[Bill the Cat]

No, actually Hillary isn't president because even though she got 3 million more votes than Trump,...

Super Bowl 50: Broncos 24, Panthers 10
The Panthers had more passing and rushing yards. They had 10 more first downs. They were the better team and still managed to lose by 14 points.

[Mountain Man]

Super Bowl 50: Broncos 24, Panthers 10
The Panthers had more passing and rushing yards. They had 10 more first downs. They were the better team and still managed to lose by 14 points.

Since they lost then it's debatable to say that they were the better team.

(Full disclosure: I'm a Broncos fan. )

[One Bad Pig]

Because they feel that their hate is not only justified but a moral obligation.

Actually, no. Very few people are capable of the humility and introspection needed to acknowledge that they're being irrational when an opponent points that out. I don't know that I could, even though I'd like to in the abstract.

[Cow Poke]

Super Bowl 50: Broncos 24, Panthers 10
The Panthers had more passing and rushing yards. They had 10 more first downs. They were the better team and still managed to lose by 14 points.

One of my favorite examples: Saints lose while gaining 500 yards for a record-extending ninth time

The New Orleans Saints racked up 507 total yards on Sunday during their season opener against the Oakland Raiders. Drew Brees was electric in completing 28 of 42 passes for 423 yards and four touchdowns. Wide receivers Willie Snead, Brandin Cooks, and Michael Thomas all caught six-plus passes, while Snead (172) and Cooks (143) both easily topped 100 receiving yards. Mark Ingram averaged 4.8 yards per carry, gaining 58 yards on his 12 totes of the rock.

And the Saints still lost.

[oxmixmudd]

You hate Trump. You are incapable of rational discussion.

I see. So my actual arguments and words etc don't count right? Just the fact I see flaws in donald trump that i think are dangerous means i'm irrational, and not only irrational, incapable of a rational discussion?

I see.

Do realize how low you just went?

Jim

[Bill the Cat]

I see. So my actual arguments and words etc don't count right?

Considering your words are just mud slinging and virtue signaling...

Just the fact I see flaws in donald trump that i think are dangerous means i'm irrational, and not only irrational, incapable of a rational discussion?

No. your continued insistence that anyone who defends him against false accusations is somehow just as bad an amoral pig as Trump and not behaving like a Christian.

I see.

Do realize how low you just went?

Jim

Unfortunately, sometimes it takes calling someone to the carpet for them to finally see they are being irrational and are incapable of rational debate about specific instances. And I notice you didn't disagree that you hate him.

[Mountain Man]

For all the low-info morons insisting that Mueller didn't indict Trump simply because he wasn't allowed to by DOJ rules...

Source: CNN’s Chris Cuomo Made 11 Misleading Statements About the Mueller Report

Cuomo is hoping to deliberately mislead his audience into believing the only reason Mueller did not indict Trump for obstruction was because he could not legally indict a sitting president due to Justice Department guidelines.

This is not even close to true.

To begin with, the Mueller Report clearly states “a criminal investigation during the President’s term is permissible” and “that a President does not have immunity once he leaves office.”

What’s more, there was nothing stopping the report from concluding Trump had obstructed justice but that he could not be indicted as president. Instead the report declaratively says — and this is important because it is the bottom line Cuomo wants to hide from his audience — “this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime” regarding obstruction.

The Special Counsel found not crime, therefore it is not the OLC stopping Mueller from recommending an indictment, it is the fact that NO CRIME WAS FOUND.

You need a crime in order to indict.

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Also, it's not ultimately up to a special counsel whether or not to indict. He can only issue a recommendation which is then decided by the Attorney General, so there were no department rules that would have prevented Mueller as special counsel from making a clear recommendation to indict the President for obstruction. I suspect the only reason he didn't is because he knew he didn't have a legal leg to stand on and that Barr would have rejected the recommendation and clearly explained why.

[seer]

For all the low-info morons insisting that Mueller didn't indict Trump simply because he wasn't allowed to by DOJ rules...

Do these idiots really believe that if Mueller found that Trump colluded he wouldn't have recommended indictment, never mind for obstructed of justice?