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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Hmmm... so it's all my fault.
    Not necessarily. There I posters I try not to interact with because they unfailingly bring out the worst in me; it's better for all concerned if I just avoid them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    That's an interesting point!
    GHWB was more mocked for being an out-of-touch elitist. He wasn't exactly treated with kid gloves, though he was briefly quite popular around Gulf War I.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Hmmm... so it's all my fault.
    I just think you two don't get along and it is better that at least one of you has the other on ignore. You are pretty "rough" though MM and could probably tone down the rhetoric a bit. Just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    You are pretty "rough" though MM and could probably tone down the rhetoric a bit. Just sayin.
    I would agree with that.
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    Back to the topic:


    Dowd: Mueller lied about my voicemail … so what else did he lie about?

    “The distortion of the Dowd quote,” Alan Dershowitz told Sean Hannity last night, “is very serious.” The discussion last night mostly bypassed John Dowd himself, who argued that the actual and full transcript of a voicemail he left gives a much different impression than Robert Mueller presented in his report. Dowd gets a chance at the end to accuse Mueller of conducting a “smear,” and called the edited transcript in the report an “ambush”:

    Well, I had an obligation as counsel to the president to find out what was going on and I’m so glad Judge Sullivan ordered the transcript because we now know the truth and we also know that this entire report by Mueller is a fraud and we’re going to find more of these things. Isn’t it ironic that this man who kept indicting and prosecuting people for process crimes committed a false statement in his own report? By taking out half my words they changed the [garbled], the tenor, and the contents of that conversation with Robert Kelner. And it’s an outrage and there’s probably more of it. …

    https://hotair.com/archives/2019/06/...mail-else-lie/


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    Like I said, there is a reason that Mueller and the Democrats really don't want him to publicly testify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

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    Just how dirty is Mueller? "Filthy" wouldn't be an exaggeration...

    In a key finding of the Mueller report, Ukrainian businessman Konstantin Kilimnik, who worked for Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, is tied to Russian intelligence.

    But hundreds of pages of government documents — which special counsel Robert Mueller possessed since 2018 — describe Kilimnik as a “sensitive” intelligence source for the U.S. State Department who informed on Ukrainian and Russian matters.

    Why Mueller’s team omitted that part of the Kilimnik narrative from its report and related court filings is not known. But the revelation of it comes as the accuracy of Mueller’s Russia conclusions face increased scrutiny.

    The incomplete portrayal of Kilimnik is so important to Mueller’s overall narrative that it is raised in the opening of his report. “The FBI assesses” Kilimnik “to have ties to Russian intelligence,” Mueller’s team wrote on page 6, putting a sinister light on every contact Kilimnik had with Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman.

    What it doesn’t state is that Kilimnik was a “sensitive” intelligence source for State going back to at least 2013 while he was still working for Manafort, according to FBI and State Department memos I reviewed.

    Kilimnik was not just any run-of-the-mill source, either.

    He interacted with the chief political officer at the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, sometimes meeting several times a week to provide information on the Ukraine government. He relayed messages back to Ukraine’s leaders and delivered written reports to U.S. officials via emails that stretched on for thousands of words, the memos show.

    The FBI knew all of this, well before the Mueller investigation concluded.

    ...

    Those emails raise further doubt about the Mueller report’s portrayal of Kilimnik as a Russian agent. They show Kilimnik was allowed to visit the United States twice in 2016 to meet with State officials, a clear sign he wasn’t flagged in visa databases as a foreign intelligence threat.

    The emails also show how misleading, by omission, the Mueller report’s public portrayal of Kilimnik turns out to be.

    ...

    If Mueller’s team can cast such a misleading portrayal of Kilimnik, however, it begs the question of what else might be incorrect or omitted in the report.

    Attorney General William Barr has said some of the Mueller report’s legal reasoning conflicts with Justice Department policies. And former Trump attorney John Dowd made a compelling case that Mueller’s report wrongly portrayed a phone message he left for a witness.

    A few more such errors and omissions, and Americans may begin to wonder if the Mueller report is worth the paper on which it was printed.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...ate-department

    Is it any wonder why Mueller refuses to testify before Congress or answer any questions posed in a public setting? He would probably find it difficult to keep his lies in order.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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