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Is suicide a sin if the person is not mentally competent to be responsible?
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Somebody mentioned Samson. I'm not sure that's really a strong example of suicide because he was sacrificing his life for a greater purpose - which Jesus said is the greatest form of love."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostSomebody mentioned Samson. I'm not sure that's really a strong example of suicide because he was sacrificing his life for a greater purpose - which Jesus said is the greatest form of love.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd I'm kinda surprised nobody brought up Samson.
He usually gets dragged into these discussions, and I agree it's not a strong example -- any more than a soldier throwing himself on a grenade to save the lives of his buddies.
ETA: Can you PLEASE make your avatar stop spinning!!!!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
ETA: Can you PLEASE make your avatar stop spinning!!!!
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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It doesn't show up as spinning on my computer but I removed it anyway."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostIt doesn't show up as spinning on my computer but I removed it anyway.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostIt doesn't show up as spinning on my computer but I removed it anyway.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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There can be times when the pain someone is in is such physical torture that death would be a relief.
A few years ago I had a hernia in my groin. The docs couldn't do anything because I had another condition that precluded me having the hernia operation. The pain meds they gave me hardly worked at all. Sometimes I would be ok, but at night, at times it would feel like someone was dragging a spike through my intestines. I actually prayed for God to please take me just to relieve the pain. I thought about suicide, but I knew the pain was temporary and eventually they could do the operation (they did)
So I can see how someone could wish for death or even take their own life if they are in such pain that death would be a relief.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThere can be times when the pain someone is in is such physical torture that death would be a relief.
A few years ago I had a hernia in my groin. The docs couldn't do anything because I had another condition that precluded me having the hernia operation. The pain meds they gave me hardly worked at all. Sometimes I would be ok, but at night, at times it would feel like someone was dragging a spike through my intestines. I actually prayed for God to please take me just to relieve the pain. I thought about suicide, but I knew the pain was temporary and eventually they could do the operation (they did)
So I can see how someone could wish for death or even take their own life if they are in such pain that death would be a relief.Last edited by shunyadragon; 05-05-2019, 12:43 PM.
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I hate even entertaining questions about suicide in general because so many times people who are asking... are asking about themselves (or who are going out of their way to read about the subject). I don't want to do anything even inadvertently that convinces them that it'll be okay to go ahead and do it."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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