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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    And who is responsible to oversee the Atty Gen. so that he doesn't abuse the authority that the President just gave him over classified info? The responsibilty for oversight lies with the Congress, and if the President and the Atty. Gen. do not wish to cooperate, which is obviously the case then the courts can mediate as to what does and what does not get released for matters of national security or the interference with on going cases.
    You didn't answer my question, Jim.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    You didn't answer my question, Jim.
    I am absolutely shocked.
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    Mueller speaking live - https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/ro...es-2019-05-29/

    speaking now
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    From the written statement (speaking live) my own summary

    Formally closing the special council office, Mueller is resigning to return to private life.
    The written report needs to speak for itself.
    Outlining Grand Jury indictment allegations - every defendant is innocent until proven guilty.
    Also investigation obstruction.
    The report - two parts - Russian influence and insufficient to conclude a broader conspiracy - and - long standing department policy, sitting president cannot be charged.
    The investigation of a sitting president is allowed, along with others who may be complicit.
    Principles of fairness - unfair to accuse somebody of a crime when there can be no process of litigating that while the defendant is in office.
    Nobody has told me whether I can or should speak further - it is entirely my decision.
    The report is MY testimony - beyond what I say today, and what is contained in my written work, I don't believe it's proper for me to speak further to Congress or any other body.
    Reiterating - There were multiple systematic efforts to interfere with the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Mueller speaking live - https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/ro...es-2019-05-29/

    speaking now
    Interesting, thanks for the link.
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    So Mueller said nothing beyond what the report said.

    Basically, "Read the report, that is my testimony, bye"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    From the written statement (speaking live) my own summary

    Formally closing the special council office, Mueller is resigning to return to private life.
    The written report needs to speak for itself.
    Outlining Grand Jury indictment allegations - every defendant is innocent until proven guilty.
    Also investigation obstruction.
    The report - two parts - Russian influence and insufficient to conclude a broader conspiracy - and - long standing department policy, sitting president cannot be charged.
    The investigation of a sitting president is allowed, along with others who may be complicit.
    Principles of fairness - unfair to accuse somebody of a crime when there can be no process of litigating that while the defendant is in office.
    Nobody has told me whether I can or should speak further - it is entirely my decision.
    The report is MY testimony - beyond what I say today, and what is contained in my written work, I don't believe it's proper for me to speak further to Congress or any other body.
    Reiterating - There were multiple systematic efforts to interfere with the election.

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    I would add that he did say something like he thought Barr was acting in good faith when he released the report (I forget his exact wording).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    So Mueller said nothing beyond what the report said.

    Basically, "Read the report, that is my testimony, bye"
    He seemed to imply (as CNN is now pointing out) that his own process could not address the alleged crime of obstruction because there are "other processes" --- CNN will see that as Mueller suggesting that Impeachment is that process.

    He, however, seems to be stating that this is his last public statement on that -- no more testimony.

    Turley is pointing out that Mueller is incorrect that he cannot suggest that there was collusion -- that it's proper than Mueller cannot indict, but that there's nothing to keep him from recommending further action, like impeachment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zymologist View Post
    I would add that he did say something like he thought Barr was acting in good faith when he released the report (I forget his exact wording).
    Yes, and that all of his staff was acting in good faith, as well ---- that he had recommended Barr release PARTS of the report, but Barr released more than Mueller requested, and Mueller was perfectly OK with that.
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    clarification - Mueller didn't flat out say that he would NOT testify further, but that IF HE DID, he would go no further than he did in his written report, or his 8 minute statement today.
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