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    Quote Originally Posted by tabibito View Post
    More "sources familiar to the matter" sources?
    To his credit MM opened his post by noting that this hasn't been verified ("If this story is true (it is from CNN, so no guarantees)")

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    To his credit MM opened his post by noting that this hasn't been verified ("If this story is true (it is from CNN, so no guarantees)")


    But it does line up with other things we know; and then there's the Democrats' general reluctance to want to see Mueller's feet held to the fire. They keep making noise about "By God, we'll subpoena him!" but then they haven't, and every indication is that they never will, even if he ultimately declines to appear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post


    But it does line up with other things we know; and then there's the Democrats' general reluctance to want to see Mueller's feet held to the fire. They keep making noise about "By God, we'll subpoena him!" but then they haven't, and every indication is that they never will, even if he ultimately declines to appear.
    For whatever reason, Mueller is still an employee of the DOJ, which means that they can prevent him from testifying in the same way that they have so far prevented White House council McGahn from appearing. They will all testify eventually, one way or the other. Besides that, why are all you Trumpsters suddenly sooooo petrified of transparency? I think you know, and those of us on the other side definitely know, why you're all so petrified. We all know that transparency will reveal the criminal behavior of the Trump administration, and you don't want that to be revealed. So sad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    For whatever reason, Mueller is still an employee of the DOJ, which means that they can prevent him from testifying in the same way that they have so far prevented White House council McGahn from appearing. They will all testify eventually, one way or the other. Besides that, why are all you Trumpsters suddenly sooooo petrified of transparency? I think you know, and those of us on the other side definitely know, why you're all so petrified. We all know that transparency will reveal the criminal behavior of the Trump administration, and you don't want that to be revealed. So sad!
    It's called a perjury trap for a reason, Jimmy...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    It's called a perjury trap for a reason, Jimmy...
    That's a canard Bill. There is no perjury trap unless you perjure yourself and you can't be trapped into lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    That's a canard Bill. There is no perjury trap unless you perjure yourself and you can't be trapped into lying.
    Dismissing a known and used tactic by prosecutors as a canard is itself a canard.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    Dismissing a known and used tactic by prosecutors as a canard is itself a canard.
    Actually reading the link you cited might help you better understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Actually reading the link you cited might help you better understand it.
    What, pray tell, are you suggesting I focus on? Perjury traps happen, and are well known enough to have had court cases decided around them. And they are exceedingly hard to prove. The point remains that the only reason to force Mueller to testify is to attempt to either tarnish his conclusion via whatever means necessary, or trick him into perjuring himself, for the Democrats in the house to fabricate an excuse to impeach Trump.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    What, pray tell, are you suggesting I focus on? Perjury traps happen, and are well known enough to have had court cases decided around them. And they are exceedingly hard to prove. The point remains that the only reason to force Mueller to testify is to attempt to either tarnish his conclusion via whatever means necessary, or trick him into perjuring himself, for the Democrats in the house to fabricate an excuse to impeach Trump.
    JimL's just doing his usual flailing, hoping he hits something. It's not as if Jim himself has shown any ability whatsoever to read for understanding, so it's rich that he's chiding someone else in that regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    What, pray tell, are you suggesting I focus on? Perjury traps happen, and are well known enough to have had court cases decided around them. And they are exceedingly hard to prove. The point remains that the only reason to force Mueller to testify is to attempt to either tarnish his conclusion via whatever means necessary, or trick him into perjuring himself, for the Democrats in the house to fabricate an excuse to impeach Trump.
    I don't think the Democrats want to tarnish Mueller. If they did that then it would call the entire investigation into question. But you'd think they would be eager to have him testify. Just imagine...

    "Mr. Mueller, did you decline to indict the President or to recommend indictment only because of Department of Justice rules saying that a sitting president can not be indicted?"

    "That is correct, Mr. Chairman."

    (Grinning like a Cheshire cat) "And are you prepared today to tell us why you think the President should be indicted?"

    "Yes, Mr. Chairman. If you'll turn to page 107 of my report..."

    Of course it wouldn't play out like that, and the Democrats know it. Their best bet at this point is to keep Mueller out of the spotlight.
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