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  • So Mueller said nothing beyond what the report said.

    Basically, "Read the report, that is my testimony, bye"

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    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      From the written statement (speaking live) my own summary

      Formally closing the special council office, Mueller is resigning to return to private life.
      The written report needs to speak for itself.
      Outlining Grand Jury indictment allegations - every defendant is innocent until proven guilty.
      Also investigation obstruction.
      The report - two parts - Russian influence and insufficient to conclude a broader conspiracy - and - long standing department policy, sitting president cannot be charged.
      The investigation of a sitting president is allowed, along with others who may be complicit.
      Principles of fairness - unfair to accuse somebody of a crime when there can be no process of litigating that while the defendant is in office.
      Nobody has told me whether I can or should speak further - it is entirely my decision.
      The report is MY testimony - beyond what I say today, and what is contained in my written work, I don't believe it's proper for me to speak further to Congress or any other body.
      Reiterating - There were multiple systematic efforts to interfere with the election.

      END
      I would add that he did say something like he thought Barr was acting in good faith when he released the report (I forget his exact wording).
      I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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      • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
        So Mueller said nothing beyond what the report said.

        Basically, "Read the report, that is my testimony, bye"
        He seemed to imply (as CNN is now pointing out) that his own process could not address the alleged crime of obstruction because there are "other processes" --- CNN will see that as Mueller suggesting that Impeachment is that process.

        He, however, seems to be stating that this is his last public statement on that -- no more testimony.

        Turley is pointing out that Mueller is incorrect that he cannot suggest that there was collusion -- that it's proper than Mueller cannot indict, but that there's nothing to keep him from recommending further action, like impeachment.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
          I would add that he did say something like he thought Barr was acting in good faith when he released the report (I forget his exact wording).
          Yes, and that all of his staff was acting in good faith, as well ---- that he had recommended Barr release PARTS of the report, but Barr released more than Mueller requested, and Mueller was perfectly OK with that.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • clarification - Mueller didn't flat out say that he would NOT testify further, but that IF HE DID, he would go no further than he did in his written report, or his 8 minute statement today.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • What the liberals will focus on (and Jimmy will receive a fax from LiberalTalkingPointsforDummmies) is Muller's statement that "If it was clear president committed no crime, we would have said so".
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • Originally posted by tabibito View Post
                Who would you recommend? Ilhan Abdullahi Omar?
                Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
                AOC, obviously.
                Go with a pro. Senator Patrick "Leaky" Leahy

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  What the liberals will focus on (and Jimmy will receive a fax from LiberalTalkingPointsforDummmies) is Muller's statement that "If it was clear president committed no crime, we would have said so".
                  And they have. Like a pack of dogs on a 3 legged cat...
                  That's what
                  - She

                  Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                  - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                  I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                  - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                  • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    What the liberals will focus on (and Jimmy will receive a fax from LiberalTalkingPointsforDummmies) is Muller's statement that "If it was clear president committed no crime, we would have said so".
                    Of course it is virtually impossible to prove someone didn't do something. Mueller has turned American law on its head essentially saying that a defendant needs to prove their innocence.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      What the liberals will focus on (and Jimmy will receive a fax from LiberalTalkingPointsforDummmies) is Muller's statement that "If it was clear president committed no crime, we would have said so".
                      No, we will focus on his entire statement, and unlike you we will understand it. Just out of curiosity CP, what do you think Mueller was trying to tell you? I'll bet you think he was exonerating the President like Atty Gen. Barr told you. Right?

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                      • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                        No, we will focus on his entire statement, and unlike you we will understand it. Just out of curiosity CP, what do you think Mueller was trying to tell you? I'll bet you think he was exonerating the President like Atty Gen. Barr told you. Right?
                        Jimmy, honey, why do you have to be such an ass? You have ZERO evidence to assume I thought Mueller was exonerating anybody. Sheeeeesh, talk about a rant! Calm yourself, Jimmy - you're gonna have another stroke.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          Of course it is virtually impossible to prove someone didn't do something. Mueller has turned American law on its head essentially saying that a defendant needs to prove their innocence.
                          Dumbell, Mueller made clear why he didn't indict, or did you miss that part of his statement? It isn't up to him to indict, it was up to him to investigate, to present that to Congress and for Congress to then decide on impeachment.

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                          • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                            Dumbell, Mueller made clear why he didn't indict, or did you miss that part of his statement? It isn't up to him to indict, it was up to him to investigate, to present that to Congress and for Congress to then decide on impeachment.
                            What crimes were committed? Name them, we’ll wait.
                            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                            • Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
                              It isn't up to him to indict...
                              That's in the prosecutor's job description, kiddo. He at the very least could have recommended indictment, or short of that, he could have followed the precedent of Ken Starr who clearly spelled out which crimes Bill Clinton had committed without addressing the matter of indictment.
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                                Dumbell
                                Oh, the Iron E.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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