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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Well the reasoning for that is not hidden, but of course Barr hasn't told you what it is in the explanations that doesn't hang together does he? Get a clue, MM.
    Fasten your seat belt, Jimmy - it's gonna get rough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Fasten your seat belt, Jimmy - it's gonna get rough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    First of all, the investigation into Russian interference and the possible collusion with the Trump campaign didn't begin with the credible evidence coming from the former British spy Christopher Steele. It began as a result of Trump advisor Papadopolis telling an Australian official about his knowledge concerning possible Russian interference. That it began with the Steele Dossier is what you keep hearing in the GOP propaganda bubble. It didn't! The Steele Dossier hadn't even been released at that time.
    Citations please Jim tell us where folks got it wrong when they debunked most of it and the parts they didn't debunk could not be proven. what evidence do you have that Meullar didn't even have.

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    Curiosor and curiousor...

    In September 2016 the FBI used a longtime informant, Stefan Halper, to make contact with George Papadopoulos, pay him $3k and fly him to London for consulting work and a policy paper on Mediterranean energy issues.

    As part of the spy operation the FBI sent a female intelligence operative (a spy) under the alias Azra Turk to pose as Halper’s assistant and engage Papdopoulos. A month later the FBI used Papadopoulos as a supplemental basis for a FISA warrant against Carter Page.

    Former Chairman of the House Oversight Committee, Trey Gowdy, tells Maria Bartiromo that he has seen transcripts of the Halper/Turk operation, and those transcripts exonerate Papadopoulos.

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    Gowdy: Yeah, you know, Johnny Ratcliffe is rightfully exercised over the obligations that the government has to tell the whole truth to the court when you are seeking permission to spy, or do surveillance, on an American. And part of that includes the responsibility of providing exculpatory information, or information that tends to show the person did not do something wrong. If you have exculpatory information, and you don’t share it with the court, that ain’t good. I’ve seen it, Johnny’s seen it, I’d love for your viewers to see it.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...-papadopoulos/

    Is he pulling an Adam Schiff, claiming to be in possession of evidence he doesn't really have, or is he the real deal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    I find it funny that the RCP article says "he seems intensely focused on undermining the dossier and credibility of Christopher Steele"... it's been thoroughly debunked and Steele has been shown to have fabricated it out of thin air. How can you undermine anything that already isn't credible at all?
    The Steele ‘dossier’ is not a dossier. It is, or was at the time, raw intelligence. A lot of the information provided by Steele has since been corroborated. It has in no way been debunked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtfloor View Post
    The Steele ‘dossier’ is not a dossier. It is, or was at the time, raw intelligence. A lot of the information provided by Steele has since been corroborated. It has in no way been debunked.
    The Steele dossier isn't the source, it's the cover-up.

    Since 2017 CTH research has outlined that Christopher Steele was never the factual source of all the material inside the Clinton financed dossier. Instead all indications of the granular details point toward Christopher Steele as the laundry process where Nellie Ohr and Glenn Simpson’s collaborative work was formatted into an intelligence product known as the “Steele Dossier”.

    Our research of central dossier claims, suppositions, accuracy and inaccuracy, points toward a process where Nellie Ohr provided Chris Steele with her research material and then Chris Steele was tasked with verifying, finding second sourcing, and formatting the final product into a series of intelligence documents that could be passed back to the FBI.

    In essence, Nellie has always been the material dossier author.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...e-ohr-dossier/
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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    The Steele ‘dossier’ is not a dossier.
    Correct. It's a steaming pile of horsie poo opposition research paid for by Hillary, and disguised as a Dossier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Correct. It's a steaming pile of horsie poo opposition research paid for by Hillary, and disguised as a Dossier.
    And there are multiple versions of it.

    Did FBI get bamboozled by multiple versions of Trump dossier?
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    The more that gets uncovered, the more it stinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    The more that gets uncovered, the more it stinks.
    Which is impressive, as it was malodorous from the get-go.
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