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    Quote Originally Posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
    Itís one of the reasons I donít jump onboard with the Republican Party either. Itís just weird that Trump is considered some ultra right crazy nut job when his positions and policies seem to closely line up more center right in some areas and even center left in a few. If anything, he would likely be considered a center right moderate President if it wasnít for the 24 hour outrage mob.
    It likely has a lot to do with the Democrats moving so rapidly to the far left (saying that Socialism is not the answer now leads to resounding booing among them) that what is a centrist or center right position is for them far right. And of course the MSM which until the Democrats matched them was even more to the left, is nothing more than an amen corner for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
    Free healthcare, free daycare, free college, payments for slave descendants, etc. Who will pay for all this free stuff?
    That isn't trying to buy votes, it is trying to do what they believe is in the best interests of the country and of the people of whom they represent. Who pays for medicare? Social Security? Unemployment Ins.? We all do. Do we all personally benefit from those and other government programs? Not necessarily, but many do, and so does the country at large.


    More assertions, but still no evidence to support them.
    Assertions? So you admit that you are not even aware of the constant lies told to you by Trump? You're not aware of his attempt to undermine a free press? To undermine the countries intelligence agencies, an independent Judiciary, the ability of Congress to do their job of overseeing the executive branch, ignoring the law and obstructing the legal process. Well, that really is not surprising to me with you lot. Trump loves you!
    Obama jailed journalists, threw the out of the White House, and wire tapped them. Obama used the government to spy on the Trump campaign and illegally released data, in an effort to undermine the incoming president. The CIA illegally obtained data on Americans and the director lied to congress about it. The IRS illegally targeted conservative non profit groups. Yet, I don’t see a peep from you or any democrat caring about any of these abuses of power. Why don’t you care?
    Talk about false assertions. Obama didn't jail anyone, it's not his job. Even Barr, Trumps lacky couldn't say, stated no evidence, that the government spied on Trump. What he said is that he is going to use his power as Atty Gen. and Trump lacky to investigate it. That, and the rest of your post has already been proven to be false, but as Trump and Barr know, all they need do is pour the poison into the porches of your naive ears for it to have its intended effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
    He does and itís amusing how the outrage mob is incapable of seeing heís more like their past democrat heroís than they care to admit.
    You must be really, really blind and confused, Lilpix. Do you know who Trumps favorite President is? Andrew Johnson. Hopefully Trump will suffer the same fate as his Presidential idle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    That isn't trying to buy votes, it is trying to do what they believe is in the best interests of the country and of the people of whom they represent. Who pays for medicare? Social Security? Unemployment Ins.? We all do. Do we all personally benefit from those and other government programs? Not necessarily, but many do, and so does the country at large.
    Where is all the money for all this free stuff coming from? See Social Security and Medicare are broke as our government borrows trillions of dollars it doesnít have to pay for ever increasing government programs that are going to put us in so much debt, the government will be bankrupt. Thereís no such thing as free, the bill will come do on our children or grandchildren. I think Iíll pass on bankrupting our country in an attempt for democrats to buy votes.


    Assertions? So you admit that you are not even aware of the constant lies told to you by Trump? You're not aware of his attempt to undermine a free press? To undermine the countries intelligence agencies, an independent Judiciary, the ability of Congress to do their job of overseeing the executive branch, ignoring the law and obstructing the legal process. Well, that really is not surprising to me with you lot. Trump loves you!
    Again, specifics Jimmy. Got any or is this just more of you making bold claims and failing to back them.

    Talk about false assertions. Obama didn't jail anyone, it's not his job. Even Barr, Trumps lacky couldn't say, stated no evidence, that the government spied on Trump. What he said is that he is going to use his power as Atty Gen. and Trump lacky to investigate it. That, and the rest of your post has already been proven to be false, but as Trump and Barr know, all they need do is pour the poison into the porches of your naive ears for it to have its intended effect.
    So a journalist wasnít thrown into prison, during Obamaís time in office? Press were not thrown out of the White House? The AP wasnít wiretapped? Obamaís abuses of power is there for all to see. Go ahead, deny these stories so I can dig them up and prove your messiah is just as bad as you accuse Trump as being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLamebrain View Post
    You must be really, really blind and confused, Lilpix. Do you know who Trumps favorite President is? Andrew Johnson. Hopefully Trump will suffer the same fate as his Presidential idle.
    Impeached by the House and acquitted by the Senate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    You must be really, really blind and confused, Lilpix. Do you know who Trumps favorite President is? Andrew Johnson. Hopefully Trump will suffer the same fate as his Presidential idle.
    I think you mean Andrew Jackson Jimmy, but considering he is the founder of the Democrat party, I thought you would have liked him more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Impeached by the House and acquitted by the Senate?
    You would think Jimmy would love the founder of the Democrat party, but I guess his TV didnít tell him that little detail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    It likely has a lot to do with the Democrats moving so rapidly to the far left (saying that Socialism is not the answer now leads to resounding booing among them) that what is a centrist or center right position is for them far right. And of course the MSM which until the Democrats matched them was even more to the left, is nothing more than an amen corner for them.
    Which is a major reason for their 2016 loss. They failed to connect to the working class in key areas, assuming they had their vote already locked in. You would think that they would have learned their lesson, but I guess not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
    You would think Jimmy would love the founder of the Democrat party, but I guess his TV didnít tell him that little detail.
    Since when did Andrew Jackson found the Democrats? He may have started its association with the working class, and changed it in significant ways, but the Democrats (initially known as Democrat-Republicans) were around from the beginning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    Since when did Andrew Jackson found the Democrats? He may have started its association with the working class, and changed it in significant ways, but the Democrats (initially known as Democrat-Republicans) were around from the beginning.
    The founding of the modern Democrat party is traced to 1828, with Andrew Jackson as their first president.

    After Andrew Jackson lost to John Quincy Adams in the election of 1824, Jackson's supporters created their own organization to get him elected. After Jackson's election in 1828, that organization became known as the Democratic Party. The National Republicans eventually coalesced into the Whig Party.
    https://www.thoughtco.com/democratic-party-104837


    Granted, I should have said Jacksonís supporters, but he still is an important figure in US political history and the reason the modern Democrat party exist today. He was the first populist president and caused quite a stir in his era, even fracturing his party and having a new one formed to get him elected. I can see why Trump would like him, since they both are boat rockers that shook up the political landscape.
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