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  • Trump To Use Executive Privilege?

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    President Trump on Tuesday said he is opposed to current and former White House aides providing testimony to congressional panels in the wake of the special counsel report, intensifying a power struggle between his administration and House Democrats.

    In an interview with The Washington Post, Trump said that complying with congressional requests was unnecessary after the White House cooperated with special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s probe of Russian interference and the president’s own conduct in office.

    “There is no reason to go any further, and especially in Congress where it’s very partisan — obviously very partisan,” Trump said.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.178a13f6683a
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    "In an interview with The Washington Post, Trump said that complying with congressional requests was unnecessary after the White House cooperated with special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s probe of Russian interference and the president’s own conduct in office."

    That's an excellent point. Mueller's investigation was extremely thoroughly -- overreaching, even -- so what is left for House Democrats to uncover?
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    • #3
      Article seems to be paywalled, so I can't view it except for the part quoted here.

      Exerting Executive Privilege in this situation is all the more appropriate as it preserves the separation of powers between the branches.
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      • #4
        It's getting crazy now. Government can only rule for so long. Eventually some caged animals go berserk. Green vest movement time?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by seer View Post
          Good...
          Too late. Just delaying tactics; he’s got plenty to hide and the public deserve to know what dirty deeds this loathsome idiot’s been up to.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
            Too late. Just delaying tactics; he’s got plenty to hide and the public deserve to know what dirty deeds this loathsome idiot’s been up to.
            You've seen what he was supposedly "up to". You deserve nothing further.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
              "In an interview with The Washington Post, Trump said that complying with congressional requests was unnecessary after the White House cooperated with special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s probe of Russian interference and the president’s own conduct in office."
              The three branches of US government are separate but equal. They each have their own special responsibilities and powers. One of the functions of the Legislative Branch is oversight of the Executive Branch. It is not for the Executive Branch to obstruct to duties of the Legislative Branch. Especially given that “obstruction” of the Special Counsel’s Inquiry was well established by Mueller and his team in 10 separate instances.

              That's an excellent point. Mueller's investigation was extremely thoroughly -- overreaching, even -- so what is left for House Democrats to uncover?
              It's not for you OR Trump to say. Congress has its role to fulfill as it sees fit.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                The three branches of US government are separate but equal. They each have their own special responsibilities and powers. One of the functions of the Legislative Branch is oversight of the Executive Branch.
                That is correct, and the Executive Branch has its powers and special responsibilities too. Including resisting a political fishing expedition by the Legislative Branch. It is called a separation of powers. And where does the Constitution say that the Legislative Branch has oversight over the Executive Branch? Please be specific.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Tassmoron View Post
                  The three branches of US government are separate but equal. They each have their own special responsibilities and powers. One of the functions of the Legislative Branch is oversight of the Executive Branch. It is not for the Executive Branch to obstruct to duties of the Legislative Branch. Especially given that “obstruction” of the Special Counsel’s Inquiry was well established by Mueller and his team in 10 separate instances.



                  It's not for you OR Trump to say. Congress has its role to fulfill as it sees fit.
                  Go away, media tourist. "Separate but equal" also means that the President is well within his Constitutional authority to tell Congress to take a hike.

                  And I'm going to echo seer here: Where does the Constitution say anything about Congress having oversight of the executive branch? Give direct quote from the document itself.
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                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                    "Separate but equal" also means that the President is well within his Constitutional authority to tell Congress to take a hike.
                    "Separate but equal" also means that Congress is well within his Constitutional authority to tell the president to "get lost", when he tries to obstruct justice. Especially given that there is ample evidence that Trump did (and is doing re Don Mcgahn etc) just that.

                    And I'm going to echo seer here: Where does the Constitution say anything about Congress having oversight of the executive branch? Give direct quote from the document itself.
                    Congress’s oversight authority derives from its “implied” powers in the Constitution, public laws, and House and Senate rules. It has long been considered an integral part of the American system of checks and balances.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tassmoron View Post
                      Congress’s oversight authority derives from its “implied” powers in the Constitution, public laws, and House and Senate rules. It has long been considered an integral part of the American system of checks and balances.
                      I want a direct quote from the Constitution itself, and not your self-serving interpretation of what you think it says.
                      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                      Than a fool in the eyes of God


                      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        I want a direct quote from the Constitution itself, and not your self-serving interpretation of what you think it says.
                        Was it a "self-serving interpretation" when Congress exercised its oversight authority over say, the Clinton administration? Or is it just when Congress exercises it oversight authority over Trump's administration that gets you upset? Congressional authority has long been considered an integral part of the American system of checks and balances

                        https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/R45442.html
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                        • #13
                          Your inability to provide a direct quote from the Constitution is noted, and rhe article you linked to does not support your claims.
                          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


                          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                            "Separate but equal" also means that Congress is well within his Constitutional authority to tell the president to "get lost", when he tries to obstruct justice. Especially given that there is ample evidence that Trump did (and is doing re Don Mcgahn etc) just that.
                            And separation of powers means that the President can tell Congress to pound sand.


                            Congress’s oversight authority derives from its “implied” powers in the Constitution, public laws, and House and Senate rules. It has long been considered an integral part of the American system of checks and balances.
                            Implied powers? Congress has the right to impeach, there is nothing saying that Trump Constitutionally must help the investigation.
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                            • #15
                              Over the last few decades the Congress, whether controlled by Democrats or Republicans, has been steadily ceding many of their powers over to the president.

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