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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Then, by all means, lets not take it out of the mother's body!!!
    Cute.

    Thatís up to the mother and her doctor to decide, not you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    A newborn baby can't exist without care either, dumbass.
    A fetus canít exist at all outside the motherís body at all if it has not attained viability.

    We have evolved to carry our young inside our bodies until they are developed enough to be born. But they are still our young inside the womb and not part of the mother.
    The mother is more than just a container for the fetus. The fetus is a part of the maternal organism until such time as it can live separately from the mother. And, until the fetus is viable it is nonsensical to grant it the status of a person, with all the rights and privileges under law of a person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    The so called (baby) is not it's own body, it is the womans body,
    If it is as you say "the womans body" then why does it have different DNA?
    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    The fetus could possible be a human being one day, and though it is certainly human, so is the pancreas, it is not a human being, it is, like the pancreas, the womans body
    Does the pancreas have a heartbeat? Does the pancreas have brain activity? Does a pancreas have its own organs? Does the pancreas have its own unique DNA? Did you think any of this through before posting or is this more stoned posting on your part?
    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    I know, you beg to differ, but the courts have ruled concerning personhood, R vs W
    IIRC, homosexuality was still listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-II) at that time and lobotomies for treating a wide variety of mental issues were still being done though phased out back then. Science, especially in the field of embryology, has come a long way in the past half century.
    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    we know you conservative, self described pro-lifers, don't really give a damn about persons anyway, except when they are still in their possibility state.
    Just like "we know" that Trump committed treason by colluding with the Russians to throw the 2016 election. smiley tinfoil-hat.gif smiley dolt.gif

    Just the multitude of examples that alone has posted of the sort of work that he is associated with exposes this as nothing but an obvious, desperate lie.

    I'm always still in trouble again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    A fetus can’t exist at all outside the mother’s body at all if it has not attained viability.
    Neither can a newborn without a lot of outside assistance.

    I'm always still in trouble again

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Just the multitude of examples that alone has posted of the sort of work that he is associated with exposes this as nothing but an obvious, desperate lie.
    Not so much a lie as a wilfully oblivious self deception.
    και εκζητησατε με και ευρησετε με οτι ζητησετε με εν ολη καρδία υμων

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    Cute.

    That’s up to the mother and her doctor to decide, not you.
    A trite platitude that falls apart on first contact with reality. It is akin to seeing parents horribly abuse their children and declaring it is none of your business but rather up to the mother and father to decide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    A fetus canít exist at all outside the motherís body at all if it has not attained viability.



    The mother is more than just a container for the fetus. The fetus is a part of the maternal organism until such time as it can live separately from the mother. And, until the fetus is viable it is nonsensical to grant it the status of a person, with all the rights and privileges under law of a person.
    Actually Mr. Naturalist Evolutionist, the entire evolutionary point of a woman is to reproduce the species and be an incubator for the next generation. So yeah under your philosophy a woman is a container for the fetus.




    And no the fetus is not part of the mother's body. That is why there is a placenta. To keep the organisms separated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    The so called (baby) is not it's own body, it is the womans body,
    If it was her body, then when she killed it, she would be the one who dies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    Cute.

    Thatís up to the mother and her doctor to decide, not you.
    So, it's a MOTHER now, and not just a "host" for a body part?

    Very telling!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    So, it's a MOTHER now, and not just a "host" for a body part?

    Very telling!
    How many feet can Tassman fit in his mouth?

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