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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostWhether they have a Y chromosome or not?1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
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of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostEven that is not conclusive. At birth, a very small percentage of males are XX (1 in 20 000) and a very small percentage of females are XY (1 in 80 000).Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostThe problem is the intersex. What objective standard exists to determine which gender they get counted as for sports?Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostThe problem is the intersex. What objective standard exists to determine which gender they get counted as for sports?
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostGiven the role of testosterone in development, anyone with elevated natural testosterone levels is going to have an unfair advantage when competing against women, so should probably compete with men.
She kept coming to "sometimes, they lose, so it's obviously not an advantage".The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostGiven the role of testosterone in development, anyone with elevated natural testosterone levels is going to have an unfair advantage when competing against women, so should probably compete with men.
Should he be banned from cycling?
Nonsense. This law is not about creating a Formula 100 rule set for what sort of human bodies can compete in sports. Its all about banning transgender people, and without actually admitting that.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostIts all about banning transgender people, and without actually admitting that.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostSo do you believe Lance Armstrong has an unfair advantage against other men, because he's a genetic freak of nature who has so much testosterone in his body that he was once accused of doping?
Should he be banned from cycling?
Nonsense. This law is not about creating a Formula 100 rule set for what sort of human bodies can compete in sports. Its all about banning transgender people, and without actually admitting that.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by seer View PostNo it is about biological males competing with biological males, and not with biological females.
If you don't want transgender people in the sports, then have a law specifically about that. That you can only compete as your original signed birth or whatever.
This is a dumb roundabout way of doing it, which is doing harm to people doing the sport already. And since there's absolutely zero movement to introduce similar "what is a standard human body" laws in the male sports, its a ripe area for legal criticism and attack.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostWasn't he stripped of all his titles for doping?
Granted, yes, Lance Armstrong was indeed doping.
I can't remember who I was thinking of now. But there was someone who by natural chance just had an extraordinarily high level of testosterone in his blood.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostIf you don't want transgender people in the sports, then have a law specifically about that. That you can only compete as your original signed birth or whatever.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostThat is what I suggested a while back! But even that is not about banning trans - just that they have to compete according to their birth gender.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostWe can phrase it whichever way we want seer. All I'm saying is that telling women what kind of bodies are natural for them, and regulating what testosterone level is natural for women in a legal setting, is weird law.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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