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    How Media Narratives Became More Important Than Facts

    The sad state of journalism.

    The Narrative Requires
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    There are many 'fact-checking' companies that have formed. They will advise what news has been approved, especially because these companies work closely with government. The various news organizations (and Google and Facebook?) can rely on this expertise. This process is reminiscent of Pravda in the old days.

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    • #3
      Or Microsoft's "News Guard" which rates the reliability of stories based on the source rather than the story itself. In many cases, it flags true stories from conservative sources as unreliable, and false stories from liberal sources as trustworthy.
      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
        There are many 'fact-checking' companies that have formed. They will advise what news has been approved, especially because these companies work closely with government. The various news organizations (and Google and Facebook?) can rely on this expertise. This process is reminiscent of Pravda in the old days.
        Government? Lolno. Progressive government, now there's a possibility. Ironic that you seem to be swallowing the Venezuelan government's narrative hook, line, and sinker.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
          Government? Lolno. Progressive government, now there's a possibility. Ironic that you seem to be swallowing the Venezuelan government's narrative hook, line, and sinker.
          I saw this traced through concerning the Canadian government and "fact checkers." This fact-checking is more in alignment with progressive/democrat government. We rarely get another viewpoint in the news today. Mountain Man just mentioned about Microsoft.

          I'm trying to contain my smirking at your ironic humor.

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          • #6
            She touched on one aspect of the news today that really bothers me. Especially with online news articles. Nobody does any original reporting any more. They just report on other people's articles. Sometimes you can dig three or four articles down before you get to the original article. That's not reporting. That's just laziness.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                She touched on one aspect of the news today that really bothers me. Especially with online news articles. Nobody does any original reporting any more. They just report on other people's articles. Sometimes you can dig three or four articles down before you get to the original article. That's not reporting. That's just laziness.
                I've noticed that, too. There used to be a word for that... um... plagiarizing? And, yeah, they'll often give the credit somewhere in the article, but for the most part, it's just cut-n-paste with no additional analysis or challenge.

                Often, I'll just choose a whole sentence to copy, then search for that exact term, and you'll find MULTIPLE "same stories".

                Now, it USED to be that the source was somebody like Associated Press, and that's understandable, but at least AP USED to do the homework and provide sources.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #9
                  Which is why I often force myself to endure the ClintonNewsNetwork or check in on your favorite girlfriend. I like to see what the crazy extreme leftist pinko commie lying scumbag phony journalists are saying. You know... balance!
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    I've noticed that, too. There used to be a word for that... um... plagiarizing? And, yeah, they'll often give the credit somewhere in the article, but for the most part, it's just cut-n-paste with no additional analysis or challenge.

                    Often, I'll just choose a whole sentence to copy, then search for that exact term, and you'll find MULTIPLE "same stories".

                    Now, it USED to be that the source was somebody like Associated Press, and that's understandable, but at least AP USED to do the homework and provide sources.
                    The other style of article I can't stand is when someone just reports what other people said on twitter and what the responses are. If I want to read twitter I will read twitter. I don't need someone to copy and paste a bunch of tweets and call that news.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      Which is why I often force myself to endure the ClintonNewsNetwork or check in on your favorite girlfriend. I like to see what the crazy extreme leftist pinko commie lying scumbag phony journalists are saying. You know... balance!
                      Cable News isn't news anymore, it is 24 hour commentary.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        Cable News isn't news anymore, it is 24 hour commentary.
                        And that's a YUGE part of the problem, eh? It used to be that they'd have to do the research, gather the facts, and condense them into a half hour newscast (probably closer to 11 minutes, given traffic, weather and commercials).

                        Now, you see the cable news people breathlessly speculating realtime "we don't know if this is an active shooter situation yet, but... blah blah blah..... we are FIRST ON THE SCENE... blah blah blah....."

                        I can't even force myself to watch Shepherd Smith in such an event - breathlessly telling us we don't want to speculate, while launching into speculation...
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #13
                          Is good journalism just as fantastic as super powered characters wearing brightly colored costumes?
                          If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                            I saw this traced through concerning the Canadian government and "fact checkers." This fact-checking is more in alignment with progressive/democrat government. We rarely get another viewpoint in the news today. Mountain Man just mentioned about Microsoft.

                            I'm trying to contain my smirking at your ironic humor.
                            Smirking because... what you posted more or less validates my contention? There's a new one.
                            Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
                            sigpic
                            I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              Which is why I often force myself to endure the ClintonNewsNetwork or check in on your favorite girlfriend. I like to see what the crazy extreme leftist pinko commie lying scumbag phony journalists are saying. You know... balance!
                              Drudge does a good job of providing a cross section of stories across the political spectrum.
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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