Which parts of Barr's summary have created confusion and been used to throw doubt on the outcomes of the inquiry? Which parts demonstrate internal (to the summary) ambiguity? According to Mueller's complaint, not capturing full substance etc. resulted in public confusion.
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Last edited by tabibito; 05-12-2019, 12:21 AM.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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I think Mueller and Barr's opinions on the obstruction question are impacted by several factors:
1) The DOJ opinion that a sitting president cannot be indicted.
2) The unique position of the President. Normally, when a suspect obstructs an investigation, they are not in a position which creates such plausible deniability. As the chief of the executive branch, President Trump has authority over the people who were investigating him. So he can take action against the investigation and couch the actions in legitimate plausible deniability of any desire to obstruct a criminal investigation. He can claim he took actions for some other legitimate reason, and they wouldn't be illegal because of a lack of criminal intent.
3) The issue is so polarizing, I'd guess there's a 50/50 chance at conviction. A potential trial would largely hinge on which specific jurors get selected.
4) Federal prosecutors, in my experience, don't proceed with cases that aren't a slam dunk (consider their conviction rate is like 99%+). 50/50 chance of conviction is NOT a slam dunk. I can't imagine any federal prosecutors that want to be the person who failed to convict a sitting president of a felony. Say good-bye to that cushy, post-government law firm partnership. Their career would be toast."If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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Originally posted by myth View PostI think Mueller and Barr's opinions on the obstruction question are impacted by several factors:
1) The DOJ opinion that a sitting president cannot be indicted.
Originally posted by myth View Post2) The unique position of the President. Normally, when a suspect obstructs an investigation, they are not in a position which creates such plausible deniability. As the chief of the executive branch, President Trump has authority over the people who were investigating him. So he can take action against the investigation and couch the actions in legitimate plausible deniability of any desire to obstruct a criminal investigation. He can claim he took actions for some other legitimate reason, and they wouldn't be illegal because of a lack of criminal intent.
3) The issue is so polarizing, I'd guess there's a 50/50 chance at conviction. A potential trial would largely hinge on which specific jurors get selected.
4) Federal prosecutors, in my experience, don't proceed with cases that aren't a slam dunk (consider their conviction rate is like 99%+). 50/50 chance of conviction is NOT a slam dunk. I can't imagine any federal prosecutors that want to be the person who failed to convict a sitting president of a felony. Say good-bye to that cushy, post-government law firm partnership. Their career would be toast.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostNope. Barr explicitly said in his letter to Congress that this played no part in his and Rosenstein's analysis of Mueller's case.
Another factor mentioned by Barr during his testimony is that we know for a fact that Trump and his campaign were falsely accused, meaning that every one of Trump's actions were those of an innocent man, and it would be extremely difficult to prove that an innocent man was acting with corrupt intent."If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostNo he doesn't."If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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Apparently none of the heroic 400 are people known to Jonathan Turley.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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