Terrible argument against fine-tuning from someone who should know better

[shunyadragon]

There isn't one range for every set of values. Usually physicists look at the background laws and see what kind of possible range they'd expect the values to be in from the theory. For example in his discussion of the cosmological constant on pg 35 you can see this.

Yes, physicists and cosmologists develop theories to describe the necessary range of cosmological constants for a universe like ours to exist and be as it is, but the fact is that the possible range of cosmological constants in nature is unknown. The range may be narrow and all possible universes in a multiverse may have cosmological constants with in a narrow range, or the range may be wider where only a limited number of possible universes out of potentially millions of universes will be like ours. No problem, the evidence we have is our successful universe. We do not have any evidence of a failure of a universe that has constants outside the acceptable range.

the concept of the appearance of 'fine tuning' from the scientific perspective is different from the theistic perspective trying to justify the necessity of a Creator God to form a universe with the appropriate constants.

[LaplacesDemon]

What does that have to do with fine tuning? The fine-tuning argument alleges that the values in question are arbitrary -- they could have been anything. That is not the case when we have a theory that predicts what the value should be.

The theory predicts the range of values it could be in. It doesn't predict the exact value. Fine-tuning says the value can fall anywhere in teh range.
On this site
http://home.messiah.edu/~rcollins/Fine-tuning/FT.HTM
There's an article called "The Evidence of fine-tuning" where Collins does several calculations as well. You can check that out too.

[Doug Shaver]

There's an article called "The Evidence of fine-tuning" where Collins does several calculations as well. You can check that out too.

Collins says on page 2: "A full treatment of the fine_tuning, however, would need to justify the choice of the lower bound of the overall range R in considerably more depth, but that is beyond the scope this paper." That means my question is not answered in that paper.