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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrawnus View Post
    It appears you have been petarded on your own hoistings.

    Welcome to the cabal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrawnus View Post
    It appears you have been petarded on your own hoistings.

    Fair enough. My language was sloppy. It should have been, "I try not to tell people what is going on in their own mind." In other words, when someone tells me what is happening on the inside, a function of their thoughts, I take them at their word.

    In this case, I certainly accept Seer at his word that he believes he is a moral objectivist/absolutist. But I do not think he is one in the real world because he can't be. That's not how morality works. Likewise, if someone tells me they believe they are a dog, I will take them at their word. Obviously, they are not a dog - but I accept that they believe this. The same is true of belief in god, gender identity, and so forth.
    The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Welcome to the cabal!
    Not in the least. Chrawnus makes me think - and challenges me with reasoned arguments. We don't always agree, but I have never experienced that he needs to play childish games and I don't recall a single time he was not civil in his posts. I enjoy his insights and challenges - and he sometimes catches me in sloppy language or in outright logical error. I'd be a fool to ignore it when he does.
    The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

    I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    - and he sometimes catches me in sloppy language ...
    this is about me, isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    Fair enough. My language was sloppy. It should have been, "I try not to tell people what is going on in their own mind." In other words, when someone tells me what is happening on the inside, a function of their thoughts, I take them at their word.

    In this case, I certainly accept Seer at his word that he believes he is a moral objectivist/absolutist. But I do not think he is one in the real world because he can't be. That's not how morality works. Likewise, if someone tells me they believe they are a dog, I will take them at their word. Obviously, they are not a dog - but I accept that they believe this. The same is true of belief in god, gender identity, and so forth.
    Translation: "I concede that you're right, but allow me to go ahead and explain how you're wrong."

    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    ...he sometimes catches me in sloppy language or in outright logical error.
    He's far from being the only one.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    Not in the least. Chrawnus makes me think - and challenges me with reasoned arguments. We don't always agree, but I have never experienced that he needs to play childish games and I don't recall a single time he was not civil in his posts. I enjoy his insights and challenges - and he sometimes catches me in sloppy language or in outright logical error. I'd be a fool to ignore it when he does.
    Well he is welcome in our cabal whether you approve or not.

    You are not the boss of us. CP is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Translation: "I concede that you're right, but allow me to go ahead and explain how you're wrong."

    Has carp ever admitted he was actually wrong? It is like trying to nail down smoke. He always has an excuse. and it is usually that it is our fault that we didn't understand him correctly, even though he tells us he is a professional communicator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Well he is welcome in our cabal whether you approve or not.

    You are not the boss of us. CP is.
    And mossy gives me permission to say so!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparko View Post
    welcome to the cabal!
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