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Without turning this forum into a 'hill of foreskins' (Joshua 5:3), I believe we can still have fun with this 'sensitive' topic.
However, don't be misled, dispensationalism has only partly to do with circumcision issues. So, let's not forget about Innocence, Conscience, Promises, Kingdoms and so on.
End time -isms within orthodox Christianity also discussed here. Clearly unorthodox doctrines, such as those advocating "pantelism/full preterism/Neo-Hymenaeanism" or the denial of any essential of the historic Christian faith are not permitted in this section but can be discussed in Comparative Religions 101 without restriction. Any such threads, as well as any that within the moderator's discretions fall outside mainstream evangelical belief, will be moved to the appropriate area.
Millennialism- post-, pre- a-
Futurism, Historicism, Idealism, and Preterism, or just your garden variety Zionism.
From the tribulation to the anichrist. Whether your tastes run from Gary DeMar to Tim LaHaye or anywhere in between, your input is welcome here.
OK folks, let's roll!
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Without turning this forum into a 'hill of foreskins' (Joshua 5:3), I believe we can still have fun with this 'sensitive' topic.
However, don't be misled, dispensationalism has only partly to do with circumcision issues. So, let's not forget about Innocence, Conscience, Promises, Kingdoms and so on.
End time -isms within orthodox Christianity also discussed here. Clearly unorthodox doctrines, such as those advocating "pantelism/full preterism/Neo-Hymenaeanism" or the denial of any essential of the historic Christian faith are not permitted in this section but can be discussed in Comparative Religions 101 without restriction. Any such threads, as well as any that within the moderator's discretions fall outside mainstream evangelical belief, will be moved to the appropriate area.
Millennialism- post-, pre- a-
Futurism, Historicism, Idealism, and Preterism, or just your garden variety Zionism.
From the tribulation to the anichrist. Whether your tastes run from Gary DeMar to Tim LaHaye or anywhere in between, your input is welcome here.
OK folks, let's roll!
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by QuantaFille View PostTo be fair, it's not made clear whether he believes the internet is already structured that way, or if he's warning that we shouldn't head towards such a configuration. Context would be helpful and none is provided.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI don't know that I entirely trust the accuracy of translations of cherry-picked quotes from a source which seems hostile to the Moscow administration.
I agree that smartphones can be dangerously addictive.
Given it's the first time I've heard anything like this in 11 years, I'd lean toward "no".
Nope. Orthodox bishops are not popes.
In Eastern Orthodoxy, what is stressed is that we should be prepared for His return. How exactly it will happen is not especially important, though chiliasm (pre-mil) was condemned as heretical around the 4th century. The conquest of Jerusalem and destruction of the temple in AD 70 is widely held to have fulfilled eschatological prophecy, but as the general resurrection is universally held to be yet in the future, hyperpreterism is ruled out.Last edited by Scrawly; 05-15-2019, 02:02 AM.
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Originally posted by Darfius View PostLook into A.I. and bitcoin as a precursor to a beast-like control grid. Throw in 5G and it's a heady mix of doom. Skynet anyone?
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Originally posted by Scrawly View PostThe video was provided. Yes, it is in Russian, but you can read the subtitles in English.Curiosity never hurt anyone. It was stupidity that killed the cat.
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Originally posted by Scrawly View PostTo make such theories accord with the biblical description of the Antichrist and his activities will surely make your head spin!
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Originally posted by Scrawly View PostSo partial preterism is the dominant view in EO, but are a plurality of eschatological views present in EO?Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostYou're ignoring other possible sources of information about the Council (i.e., early church historians Socrates, Sozomen and Theodoret who subsequently covered the event) and the line from the Creed - not sure what else that could possibly have been addressing.
I'm not sure what line from the Creed you're referring to. The only one that seems to be even mildly related to chiliasm is "whose kingdom shall have no end" but I do not see the contradiction, given that chliasm does in fact believe that, even if the understanding is slightly different from an amillennial viewpoint. But more importantly, it is not clear at all that it had anything to do with Apollinarius's chiliasm (a belief it's not fully clear he held). Various sources I've found assert that it was actually meant to refute a christological heresy. For example:
http://www.francisgumerlock.com/wp-c...0Gumerlock.pdf
Now, I'm not sure how accurate its assertions are, but it does seem that the idea that chiliasm was being condemned is at best a possibility, but not a certainty.
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