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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrawly View Post
    To make such theories accord with the biblical description of the Antichrist and his activities will surely make your head spin!
    Not really. "He" almost accomplished it at Babel, which is why God Himself had to forestall things a few thousand years. But making it so that no man can buy or sell save with government permission will require integration with the Internet and it's clear that a universal consciousness is where that is headed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrawly View Post
    So partial preterism is the dominant view in EO, but are a plurality of eschatological views present in EO?
    I don't think I'd characterize it as the dominant view in EO, but that the dominant view in EO is largely in accord with partial preterism. I'd venture to say that neither camp is especially aware of the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    You're ignoring other possible sources of information about the Council (i.e., early church historians Socrates, Sozomen and Theodoret who subsequently covered the event) and the line from the Creed - not sure what else that could possibly have been addressing.
    I don't see anything about Apollinarius in Socrates' or Sozomen's Church History. Theodoret mentions Apollinarius in his Church History (Book 5), but discusses only his christological views.

    I'm not sure what line from the Creed you're referring to. The only one that seems to be even mildly related to chiliasm is "whose kingdom shall have no end" but I do not see the contradiction, given that chliasm does in fact believe that, even if the understanding is slightly different from an amillennial viewpoint. But more importantly, it is not clear at all that it had anything to do with Apollinarius's chiliasm (a belief it's not fully clear he held). Various sources I've found assert that it was actually meant to refute a christological heresy. For example:
    http://www.francisgumerlock.com/wp-c...0Gumerlock.pdf

    Now, I'm not sure how accurate its assertions are, but it does seem that the idea that chiliasm was being condemned is at best a possibility, but not a certainty.

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