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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    The name you give it or the emotional attachment that a person has to it, says nothing about what it actually is. This sort of confusion explains some of the very poor decision making around abortion.
    Which you yourself used:

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    Laws that ban or severely restrict a woman’s right to abortion, are using the unwanted child to punish the mother. That is one reason that such laws are deeply immoral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Which you yourself used:
    I see a slight misunderstanding has arisen, namely, that when I wrote ‘child’ I meant ‘child’. I hope that helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    I see a slight misunderstanding has arisen, namely, that when I wrote ‘child’ I meant ‘child’. I hope that helps.
    It helps establish the fact that you're referring to an "unwanted child" as opposed to a "clump of tissue" or some other such term. Like when Tassman accidentally refers to the "mother" instead of "the woman". In fact, you also used the term "mother".

    Every once in a while, you liberals screw up and accidentally speak the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    It helps establish the fact that you're referring to an "unwanted child" as opposed to a "clump of tissue" or some other such term. Like when Tassman accidentally refers to the "mother" instead of "the woman". In fact, you also used the term "mother".

    Every once in a while, you liberals screw up and accidentally speak the truth.
    I cannot speak for Tassman, but I am pro-children, pro-mothers, pro-contraception, pro-sex education, and pro-women’s choice. I also think that a country benefits when it puts public resources into raising and educating its poorest children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    I cannot speak for Tassman,
    That's OK, neither can he.

    but I am pro-children, pro-mothers, pro-contraception, pro-sex education, and pro-women’s choice. I also think that a country benefits when it puts public resources into raising and educating its poorest children.
    One of your "pro" issues is in direct conflict with one or more of your other "pro" issues. It does not compute. DANGER, Will Robinson!
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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post

    but I am pro-children, pro-mothers, pro-contraception, pro-sex education, and pro-women’s choice.
    One of these things is not like the others,
    One of these things just doesn't belong,
    Can you tell which thing is not like the others
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    That's OK, neither can he.



    One of your "pro" issues is in direct conflict with one or more of your other "pro" issues. It does not compute. DANGER, Will Robinson!
    This is how to reduce the incidence of abortion. We want to avoid turning the clock back to this:

    But I cannot forget. I am a nurse, and have been for 19 years. I work for Planned Parenthood of Westchester and am committed to its goals as a direct result of my experiences in the field of obstetrics and gynecology. I saw what happened to women who were made desperate by unwanted pregnancy. I remember the more fortunate women who survived, and I remember the ones who were taken from the emergency room to the morgue. Their pain, their suffering, and their deaths were so unnecessary and so tragic. Those were the days when it was not unusual for half of the obstetric beds in a large public hospital to be occupied by women suffering the consequences of illegal abortion.
    NY Times archives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    This is how to reduce the incidence of abortion. We want to avoid turning the clock back to this:



    NY Times archives.
    The whole back-alley abortions with young women dying in the streets story was a sham. A lie. Never happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    The whole back-alley abortions with young women dying in the streets story was a sham. A lie. Never happened.
    This is the article from 1981.
    https://www.nytimes.com/1981/02/01/n...-abortion.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    The whole back-alley abortions with young women dying in the streets story was a sham. A lie. Never happened.
    It did happen but was almost unheard of. Moreover, Bernard Nathanson, co-founder in 1969 of the National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws (NARAL) and one time director of New York City’s Center for Reproductive and Sexual Health (who later found God and became a very vocal Pro-Life supporter) exposed how the pro-abortion movement made up figures concerning the number of deaths linked to illegal abortions. He noted that they constantly fed the media the lie that 10,000 women a year died as a result of botched illegal abortion when in fact it was but a tiny fraction of that (in 1972, the year prior to Roe v. Wade, 28 deaths were reported from illegal abortions).

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