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    Between 1950 and 1960, the National Centre for Health Statistics has about 200 - 250 deaths per year from illegal abortions. You also have much exploitation of desperate women because they were vulnerable and acting illegally. This is very definitely a history not to be repeated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtfloor View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtfloor View Post
    Between 1950 and 1960, the National Centre for Health Statistics has about 200 - 250 deaths per year from illegal abortions.
    Does that statistic include the innocent children who were killed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Does that statistic include the innocent children who were killed?
    Happily, no children were killed. But you know that already, so you’re just trolling as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    Between 1950 and 1960, the National Centre for Health Statistics has about 200 - 250 deaths per year from illegal abortions. You also have much exploitation of desperate women because they were vulnerable and acting illegally. This is very definitely a history not to be repeated.
    In 1978 the CDC examined the number of deaths resulting from illegal abortions earlier in that decade during a three year period and found that they ranged between five and 39. A far cry from the 10,000 per year that abortion proponents and the ever obedient MSM kept erroneously reporting. In the last year that I could find information (2014) the CDC reported that six women died as a result of a legal abortion.

    Doesn't seem that all that much has changed.

    Moreover, since the 1970s the availability of contraceptives and their efficiency has markedly increased making abortions less necessary -- if the contraceptive precautions were used. Increasing restrictions on abortions would likely mean that contraceptives would increase in use since women would know that they couldn't rely on an abortion for their means of avoiding having a baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    Happily, no children were killed. But you know that already, so you’re just trolling as usual.
    Considering the testimony of different nurses at abortion clinics that live babies who the mothers gave birth to after the abortion failed to do its dirty work were later killed, your claim is false even when we use your narrow definitions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Considering the testimony of different nurses at abortion clinics that live babies who the mothers gave birth to after the abortion failed to do its dirty work were later killed, your claim is false even when we use your narrow definitions.
    This is why good sex education is needed, so that girls know when they are pregnant. It is the reason that good health care is made available so that girls get help early and free of judgment, and so that abortions are carried out safely.

    We already know that removing access to professional abortion services does not prevent abortion and therefore it is a sinful and inappropriate solution to the desire that everyone has to reduce the incidence of abortion and particularly of late term abortions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtfloor View Post
    Happily, no children were killed.
    Lies. Abortion always kills a child.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    Between 1950 and 1960, the National Centre for Health Statistics has about 200 - 250 deaths per year from illegal abortions. You also have much exploitation of desperate women because they were vulnerable and acting illegally. This is very definitely a history not to be repeated.
    250 over 10 years is a whole lot less than the 10's of thousands dying in back alleys that the prochoice people pushed as a statistic and still do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    250 over 10 years is a whole lot less than the 10's of thousands dying in back alleys that the prochoice people pushed as a statistic and still do.
    And most of those were from infections before the advent of antibiotics.


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