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    Maine Senate passes bill giving state's electoral votes to national pop vote winner

    Source: https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/15/politics/maine-popular-vote/index.html



    Maine's lawmakers passed a bill that would give the state's electoral votes to the presidential candidate who won the national popular vote, taking a step toward becoming the 15th state to enact such a law.
    The Maine Senate voted 19-16 Tuesday to join the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which would give all committed states' electoral votes to the winning popular vote candidate should the group accrue the 270 votes necessary for a majority.

    California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington state and the District of Columbia have all committed to the pact. The most recent addition, New Mexico, put the total at 189 electoral votes.

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    All typically blue states. Imagine that...

    How quick will this get abandoned if Trump wins the popular vote next election? And imagine you are Maine, and by some fluke, every single resident votes for one candidate, but the other candidate wins the popular vote. Effectively, your entire state's actual votes didn't matter. This is a prime example of TrumpOCD overriding the logic of politicians...


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    Having grown up in a state that was about 67/33, if I still lived there, I would reason that such a law still increased my chance of having any voice above zero.
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    Wow - "a bill that would give the state's electoral votes to the presidential candidate who won the national popular vote" - so much for states' rights, when you subjugate your own state's populace to the will of the nation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Wow - "a bill that would give the state's electoral votes to the presidential candidate who won the national popular vote" - so much for states' rights, when you subjugate your own state's populace to the will of the nation.
    Have any of these laws been contested?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Wow - "a bill that would give the state's electoral votes to the presidential candidate who won the national popular vote" - so much for states' rights, when you subjugate your own state's populace to the will of the nation.
    That's how bad they hate Trump. They are actually signing away their sovereignty in the election.


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    So basically, the choice of the state's citizens doesn't actually matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    That's how bad they hate Trump. They are actually signing away their sovereignty in the election.
    States have been abdicating their sovereignty to the federal government for a long, long time now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    So basically, the choice of the state's citizens doesn't actually matter.
    Exactly. They don't even have to vote at all if they are essentially allowing the other states to pick for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    Exactly. They don't even have to vote at all if they are essentially allowing the other states to pick for them
    Which is ironic, because the whole point of the electoral college was to give states an equal/proportional say in who the national leader was.
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    compete morons. They just gave away their state sovereignty and their own citizen's votes. Even if everyone in their state voted for candidate X and candidate Y got more votes in other states, they will invalidate every vote in their state for that other candidate. wow.

    ETA - so it isn't official yet. The governor could still not sign the bill. But she is democratic, so that's probably not much hope.
    Last edited by Sparko; 05-16-2019 at 12:37 PM.

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