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    Paul vs Peter, Apostle to the Gentiles

    Peter was sent to a Gentile named Cornelius. Acts 10.

    However before Acts 10, in Acts 9 Jesus sent Paul to the Gentiles.

    Why do you think Jesus didn't send Paul to Cornelius instead of Peter?

    Or why didn't Jesus make Peter the Apostle to the Gentiles?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian3 View Post
    Peter was sent to a Gentile named Cornelius. Acts 10.
    Perhaps Peter had things to learn about God's interaction with gentiles. "Do not call unclean what God has called clean" would point in that direction.

    However before Acts 10, in Acts 9 Jesus sent Paul to the Gentiles.

    Why do you think Jesus didn't send Paul to Cornelius instead of Peter?
    Aside from the answer to the first question? Why would God send someone a third of the way across the globe to speak with someone when the two people each had a bare minimum understanding of the other's language? It isn't as though there were no Christians in the visitee's homeland. Perhaps the answer would be "God has his reasons, and he knows what he is doing."

    Or why didn't Jesus make Peter the Apostle to the Gentiles?
    Horses for courses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian3 View Post
    Peter was sent to a Gentile named Cornelius. Acts 10.

    However before Acts 10, in Acts 9 Jesus sent Paul to the Gentiles.

    Why do you think Jesus didn't send Paul to Cornelius instead of Peter?

    Or why didn't Jesus make Peter the Apostle to the Gentiles?

    Thanks.
    Peter was living closer to Cornelius at the time, so it would be faster for him to travel there, instead of Paul.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrawnus View Post
    Peter was living closer to Cornelius at the time, so it would be faster for him to travel there, instead of Paul.


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    I thought about that - then I remembered what happened to Philip after he baptised the eunuch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian3 View Post
    Peter was sent to a Gentile named Cornelius. Acts 10.

    However before Acts 10, in Acts 9 Jesus sent Paul to the Gentiles.

    Why do you think Jesus didn't send Paul to Cornelius instead of Peter?

    Or why didn't Jesus make Peter the Apostle to the Gentiles?

    Thanks.
    By that time Paul was likely quite a distance away.

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    My answer:

    Jesus probably sent Peter to Cornelius to teach him what He wanted him to know at that time; that
    God declared Gentiles clean. Before that time Peter would have considered Gentiles unclean and would not have eaten with them.

    I think Jesus knew Paul would make a better Apostle to the Gentiles.

    Peter had some flaws; he denied Jesus; at first Peter had table fellowship with Gentiles and then he refused to eat with them.

    Peter was negatively influence by the Judaizers.

    Jesus could depend on Paul whereas He could not depend on Peter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian3 View Post

    Jesus could depend on Paul whereas He could not depend on Peter.
    It would be hard to make an argument that any of the founding apostles were more dedicated to Christ than was Peter. When Peter got out of the boat and walked on water, where were the others? Sitting in the boat, taking no risks is where. When Peter denied Christ, where were the others. Shot through is where - nowhere near Jesus. Peter's failures are the more spectacular precisely because he followed more faithfully.
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    Seeing as Peter almost immediately after visiting Cornelius were confronted by Jewish Christians in Jerusalem and had to defend his actions of associating with gentiles I think it was probably a good thing it was him that was sent to Cornelius and not Paul. Seeing as he was one of the three pillars of the church the Jewish followers were probably much more receptive to hear that God had removed the distinction between Jew and Gentile in Christ from Peter than if they got to hear it from a relatively newly converted Paul, who probably didn't have much authority in the church at the time, and who on top of that had been involved in heavy persecution of the faith prior to his conversion.

    The Jewish Christians needed to be shown that there was no more distinction between Jews and gentiles in Christ and Peter's words on the matter would have weighed a lot more that Paul's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tabibito View Post
    It would be hard to make an argument that any of the founding apostles were more dedicated to Christ than was Peter. When Peter got out of the boat and walked on water, where were the others? Sitting in the boat, taking no risks is where. When Peter denied Christ, where were the others. Shot through is where - nowhere near Jesus. Peter's failures are the more spectacular precisely because he followed more faithfully.
    Then Peter got down out of the boat, walked on the water and came toward Jesus. 30 But when he saw the wind, he was afraid and, beginning to sink, cried out, “Lord, save me!”

    31 Immediately Jesus reached out his hand and caught him. “You of little faith,” he said, “why did you doubt?”

    Let's face it none of Jesus' disciples were suitable to be the Apostle to the Gentiles, except Paul.

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