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    tWebber tabibito's Avatar
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    I claim that God planned for the cross, which is to say, the actions of men being predictable, God made sure that the outcomes would benefit his purpose.

    "The Lord works out everything for his own ends--even the wicked for a day of disaster." (Prov. 16:4)
    The Lord ensures that everything will have an outcome that benefits his purpose - even the actions of the wicked in time of trouble.

    Surely you could have found passages more likely to support your argument - I could.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tabibito View Post
    I claim that God planned for the cross, which is to say, the actions of men being predictable, God made sure that the outcomes would benefit his purpose.
    What if Pilate had achieved his purpose? The actual path to the cross was unexpected.

    "Then the chief priests and the elders of the people assembled in the palace of the high priest, whose name was Caiaphas, and they schemed to arrest Jesus secretly and kill him. 'But not during the festival,' they said, 'or there may be a riot among the people.' " (Mt. 26:3-5)

    The Lord ensures that everything will have an outcome that benefits his purpose - even the actions of the wicked in time of trouble.
    But that is not the text of the verse, "works out everything" implies active working in events.

    Surely you could have found passages more likely to support your argument - I could.
    I have a whole page of Scripture quotes! I didn't want to overwhelm the discussion.

    LA 3:37 Who can speak and have it happen if the Lord has not decreed it?

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    "What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)

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