Another ancient of Creation myth Psalm 74:12-14

[shunyadragon]

Psalm 74:12-14 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

12 For God is my King of old,
working salvation in the midst of the earth.
13 Thou didst divide the sea by thy strength:
thou brakest the heads of the dragons in the waters.
14 Thou brakest the heads of leviathan in pieces,
and gavest him to be meat to the people inhabiting the wilderness.

[DesertBerean]

And?

[tabibito]

And?

But ... but ... Who in their right minds would expect metaphor in a poetical work?

[Cow Poke]

But ... but ... Who in their right minds would expect metaphor in a poetical work?

Who has measured the waters in the hollow of his hand, or with the breadth of his hand marked off the heavens? Who has held the dust of the earth in a basket, or weighed the mountains on the scales and the hills in a balance?

This is fun!

[shunyadragon]

And?

Origin is Ugarit cuneiform:

[tabibito]

The imagery does make a call on ANE myths. Beyond that, the psalm has nothing to do with creation stories - it is a recapitulation of the deliverance story, and an expression of confidence that God will deliver his people again.

[shunyadragon]

The imagery does make a call on ANE myths. Beyond that, the psalm has nothing to do with creation stories - it is a recapitulation of the deliverance story, and an expression of confidence that God will deliver his people again.

You are given a rather latter day interpretation which is different from the origins and what was actually written.

[tabibito]

You are given a rather latter day interpretation which is different from the origins and what was actually written.

Hardly.

10 O God, how long shall the adversary reproach? shall the enemy blaspheme thy name for ever?
11 Why withdrawest thou thy hand, even thy right hand? pluck [it] out of thy bosom.

12 For God [is] my King of old, working salvation in the midst of the earth.
13 Thou didst divide the sea by thy strength: thou brakest the heads of the dragons in the waters.

It doesn't take a lot of thinking to work out who the dragon and leviathan symbolises. nor which sea got divided. nor to work out that the author considers the action against dragons, and leviathan, is something the author expects to be repeated.

14 Thou brakest the heads of leviathan in pieces, [and] gavest him [to be] meat to the people inhabiting the wilderness.
15 Thou didst cleave the fountain and the flood: thou driedst up mighty rivers.

16 The day [is] thine, the night also [is] thine: thou hast prepared the light and the sun.
17 Thou hast set all the borders of the earth: thou hast made summer and winter.

18 Remember this, [that] the enemy hath reproached, O LORD, and [that] the foolish people have blasphemed thy name.
19 O deliver not the soul of thy turtledove unto the multitude [of the wicked]: forget not the congregation of thy poor for ever.

Which part of the psalm is intended to be a creation story? Which part of drying up fountains, floods, and rivers recounts creation stories?

[Sparko]

well considering that all mankind spread out from the time of the flood, it would be reasonable that various cultures retained some version of the creation story and that they would be similar to the bible.

[rogue06]

well considering that all mankind spread out from the time of the flood, it would be reasonable that various cultures retained some version of the creation story and that they would be similar to the bible.

And, given such a scenario, that a couple of these garbled renditions happen to be recorded/written down previous to what is found in the Bible is irrelevant.

[Sparko]

And, given such a scenario, that a couple of these garbled renditions happen to be recorded/written down previous to what is found in the Bible is irrelevant.

yes. and even if you only believe in a local flood it still holds. People spread out from one beginning with a knowledge of God and his creation, but it got lost and distorted throughout the generations.

[Mountain Man]

And, given such a scenario, that a couple of these garbled renditions happen to be recorded/written down previous to what is found in the Bible is irrelevant.

Atheists love the "borrowing" argument, but they never seem to realize that the borrowing could have gone the other way

[shunyadragon]

Atheists love the "borrowing" argument, but they never seem to realize that the borrowing could have gone the other way

The fact is that the references referred to in the article from the OT were "borrowed" from Canaanite cuneiform 'creation' texts.

[Mountain Man]

The fact is that the references referred to in the article from the OT were "borrowed" from Canaanite cuneiform 'creation' texts.

But where did the Canaanites "borrow" from?

[DesertBerean]

The fact is that the references referred to in the article from the OT were "borrowed" from Canaanite cuneiform 'creation' texts.

As someone else said, in our worldview, memories of such a flood would be shared through the centuries. So what's your point?