Police officers nationwide flagged for racist and violent social media posts

[shunyadragon]

Posted this while the Ferguson shooting was still hot

And the Washington Times ran this shortly after:

Source: Police kill more whites than blacks, but minority deaths generate more outrage

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Wrt the last statistic, a recent study that a black person living in Chicago has an 1.13 in 1000 chance of being shot. Period. Funny how groups like Black Lives Matter and liberal politicians aren't up in arms (no pun intended) about this. But then they can't blame whites, or the police or give their typical knee jerk reaction of demanding stricter gun control since Chicago already has some of the toughest gun laws in the country.

Your agenda is still ignoring the history why the condition of the black community arrived at its present state today considering your agenda it is easy for you to ignore it, and accuse the Black community for being responsible.

. . . and all this ignores the issue of racism in law enforcement by blaming the victims.

[carpedm9587]

No, but they are much more prominent in black communities with 70% homes fatherless. As far as the the gangster culture you don't see these kinds of drive by shootings and gang wars in poor white neighborhoods. You did though during the 20s-30s with the Italian gangs.

So if they are not specific to the black culture, why identify the people by skin color rather than gang affiliation or single-parent homes?

[carpedm9587]

Right and your boys have two loving parents, and that makes all the difference - rich, poor white or black... It is the family...

Then make it about the family - and not the color of the skin...

[carpedm9587]

You actually have official crime stats for this? Or is this another one of your infamous hypotheticals?

I don't need them. The math is kind of inescapable. As Seer noted, if crimes are broken down by race, there is no question there is proportionately more crime committed by black and Hispanic people than white people. Pretty much all black and Hispanic people have black hair. White people have a wide array of hair colors, including black. If people with non-black hair are almost exclusively white, then the crime distribution I suggested pretty much follows.

But the fact remains, blacks in America are disproportionately more likely to commit crime. Make of it what you will.

I have already responded to this. I am not arguing the fact. I am pointing out the social impact of continually linking violence to skin color, when skin color has nothing to do with violence.

[carpedm9587]

Well...

A blonde, out of money, and down on her luck after buying air at a real bargain, needed money desperately. To raise cash, she decided to kidnap a child and hold him for ransom. She went to the local playground, grabbed a kid randomly, took her behind a building, and told her, "I've kidnapped you." She then wrote a big note saying, "I've kidnapped your kid. Tomorrow morning, put $10,000 in a paper bag and leave it under the apple tree next to the slides, on the south side of the playground. Signed, A blonde." The blonde then pinned the note to the kid's shirt and sent him home to show it to his parents. The next morning, the blonde checked, and sure enough, a paper bag was sitting beneath the apple tree. The blonde looked in the bag and found the $10,000 with a note that said, "How could you do this to a fellow blonde?"

Now THAT was funny...

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Wait...


...for...



...it....







A blonde at a blinking red light.

[Mountain Man]

The information/advice is really good, but being Chris Rock there is going to be profanity every other sentence.

Still. It is funny.

I can't get a handle on his politics. He seems to be an equal opportunity offender, but I wouldn't be surprised if he leans conservative.

[carpedm9587]

From what I recall, carpe virtue-signals by admitting that he's unavoidably racist because he's Caucasian, but tries to consciously mitigate his racism.

I am not unavoidably racist because I am Caucasion - I am unavoidably racist (to some degree) because I have grown up in a culture where racism is part of the fabric of our society. It is endemic to many of our day-to-day institutions. It takes a conscious effort to identify the ways in which that racism has become part of my psyche, and strive to undo it.

We'd be morally upstanding like him if only we'd do the same; since we're in denial, however, we have no moral leg to stand on.

I think anyone is making a good choice to consciously look for racism in their attitudes and behavior, subconscious or otherwise. I also think everyone is making a good choice if they do not steal, if they do not randomly kill other people, and if they do not lie. If that's "virtue signaling," I can live with it.

[carpedm9587]

But, but he is a moral relativist...

And subjectivist!


Psstt... we ALL are in our behavior!

[carpedm9587]

That just means his morals are relatively better than ours....

That is not a claim I have ever made. Indeed, I eschew those kinds of comparisons. If one cannot argue for the morality of a position without engaging in "virtue signaling," then the inevitable result is we are all "virtue signaling."

[Cow Poke]

...I also think everyone is making a good choice if they do not steal, if they do not randomly kill other people...

If I am targeted in my killing, am I good?

[carpedm9587]

Again. again and again poverty is not the issue, race is the issue. There have been many incidents of racial profiling and unwarranted violence against blacks that were not poor.

Your 'racist' accusations need a better explanation

To be fair, I don't think anyone here is being consciously racist - or intending to do harm. There are simply turns of phrase that have become commonplace in our culture. Most of us use them at one time or another. "Blacks are more violent" is an example of one of those statements we toss around without much thought about the social impact of associating violence with blackness.

If we continually said, "black-haired people are more violent," eventually society would begin to look askance at black-haired people. Those who are weaker or more afraid by nature would cross the street when a black-haired person approaches. Many would watch that black-haired person closely, expecting them to be likely to do something violent. People would begin consciously or subconsciously putting the resume of the black-haired person aside more quickly than that of people with hair of a different color. AirBnB hosts and Lyft drivers would deny a higher proportion of rentals and rides to black-haired people. Black-haired AirBnB hosts would see a lower proportion of renters choosing their properties. These are all realities that have been documented for the black community. They are not solely rooted in the phrase "black people are more violent;" that is only one of many things in our culture that create those realities. But if we worked to stomp them all out, imagine how much more equitable life would be for everyone.

[carpedm9587]

Your wall of text aside, when a white officer has to confront a black subject, the officer is not thinking about the socioeconomic status of the subject, or whether he's been "Jim Crowed" - he's thinking "if I have to shoot this guy, it's gonna really hit the fan" - not because the guy comes from a "poor" background, but because the media is going to jump all over "white cop shoots (or kills) black man". Them are the facts, Jack.

Fix that.

I consider that a "good thing." Frankly, any office who is thinking about pulling that trigger should be thinking pretty hard about the ramifications, whatever the skin color of the suspect.

But I agree that having to think differently because they are black versus white is not a desirable thing. So to fix that, we need to root out racism in the police force, and ensure that any cop on the beat does not have a hint of racism to their history, their private life, or their public life. We need to make sure that a black person and a white person, charged with the same crime under similar circumstances, is treated identically by the system. We need to stop criminalizing drug use and focus on drug distribution, getting the people who are using the medical help they need, and putting the distributors in jail. We need to eliminate anti-marijuana laws, treat it as we do alcohol, and release the sea of people in jail (some for life) on nothing more than being caught with a couple of reefers.

That would be a good start.

[carpedm9587]

Actually, multiple studies have shown that a white person stands a considerably higher chance of getting shot by a police officer during a confrontation than does a black person. This has been demonstrated often enough now that researchers are now turning to investigate why that is (several theories).

I'd be curious to examine those studies. Do you have links?

[carpedm9587]

They are easier to see in the dark?

My eldest soon gave my youngest son a piece of advice, many years ago. He said, "Michael, when we are playing hide-and-seek at night, we have an advantage over dad. We can hide right out in the open - as long as we keep our eyes shut and don't smile!"

There was this long moment of silence, and then we all broke up laughing.

[Cow Poke]

I consider that a "good thing." Frankly, any office who is thinking about pulling that trigger should be thinking pretty hard about the ramifications, whatever the skin color of the suspect.

But that's the point - There's enough going on in a "shoot / don't shoot" decision without adding politics and optics. He needs to be singularly focused on the threat assessment and his response.

But I agree that having to think differently because they are black versus white is not a desirable thing.

It can be a deadly thing.

So to fix that, we need to root out racism in the police force, and ensure that any cop on the beat does not have a hint of racism to their history, their private life, or their public life.

Why do you automatically jump to only one side of the equation? How bout some education on the other side, too, that this is a deadly situation, and requires the cooperation of BOTH individuals - the officer AND the subject.

We need to make sure that a black person and a white person, charged with the same crime under similar circumstances, is treated identically by the system.

No argument here!

We need to stop criminalizing drug use and focus on drug distribution, getting the people who are using the medical help they need, and putting the distributors in jail. We need to eliminate anti-marijuana laws, treat it as we do alcohol, and release the sea of people in jail (some for life) on nothing more than being caught with a couple of reefers.

That would be a good start.

If we took all the lawyers in the world, and laid them head to toe around the equator -- THAT would be a good start!