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  • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    As noted - a true fact. However, as I said to Seer, continually affirming that violence is linked to blackness only affirms a stereotype that harms every black person NOT so engaged.



    Perhaps this is a false dichotomy...



    Yeah... I've heard this meme before. Sorry. Not buying it. While I agree that too many programs foster a sense of entitlement instead of self-sufficiency, and I would re-engineer MOST of the existing programs, I see honest mistakes being made here. It is not different than the charity that goes in after a disaster and deals with the short-term need as THEY see it without maximizing the sustainability of their efforts. Then they leave and it all falls apart, often leaving the indigenous people worse of then before. The intent is good - but the execution is poor. THAT the Democrats are guilty of in spades. Treating minorities as "slaves," no. That's just the latest political meme from the right, where the problems with racism are chronic in many places.
    It's pretty clear that the Democrat party expects blacks to do their bidding.

    But anyway, I don't know why you keep using the term "blackness" when discussing crime statistics. I'm not entirely sure what it's meant to imply.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


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    • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      It's pretty clear that the Democrat party expects blacks to do their bidding.
      Not anymore than ANY party wants members that will support and affirm the platform. But that doesn't stop conservatives and Republicans from pounding on the meme...

      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      But anyway, I don't know why you keep using the term "blackness" when discussing crime statistics. I'm not entirely sure what it's meant to imply.
      "Blackness" = "being black" Saves two characters.
      The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

      I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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      • Originally posted by seer View Post
        And constantly accusing police of racism is OK with you? And I'm not contributing to the social problem, I'm not making blacks kill blacks at horrible levels...
        Again Mafia kill Mafia and other gang members, and whites kill whites at a horrible rate. Not even a relevant issue in the topic.

        Again, again and again . . . your are portraying and stereotyping blacks as violent because they are black.
        Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
        Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
        But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

        go with the flow the river knows . . .

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        • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
          Again Mafia kill Mafia and other gang members, and whites kill whites at a horrible rate. Not even a relevant issue in the topic.

          Again, again and again . . . your are portraying and stereotyping blacks as violent because they are black.
          No one is accusing ALL law enforcement officers are racist. What you are failing to acknowledge is that it is severe problem and has a long involved history going back to slavery.
          Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
          Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
          But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

          go with the flow the river knows . . .

          Frank

          I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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          • Always entertaining watching shunya argue with himself.

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            • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
              Oh, I see....
              What a great way to begin a post!
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                Not anymore than ANY party wants members that will support and affirm the platform. But that doesn't stop conservatives and Republicans from pounding on the meme...
                For one thing, it's not a meme. Now you have the Democrat party pushing for reparations prompting one black athlete to say,

                "I used to be a Democrat until I did my history and found out the misery that that party brought to my race... Let's pay restitution. How about the Democratic Party pay for all the misery brought to my race..."

                https://www.breitbart.com/sports/201...y-reparations/

                Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                Blackness" = "being black" Saves two characters.
                You make it sound like an active quality rather than a passive attribute like skin color. Obviously whatever the problem is in the black community, it's cultural and not biological. So if "being black" means wearing your pants low on your hips and flashing gang signs then that needs to change.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                  That is not a claim I have ever made.
                  That was entirely tongue in cheek, Michel - hence the emoji.
                  Indeed, I eschew those kinds of comparisons.
                  This is a prime exmple of virtue signaling.
                  If one cannot argue for the morality of a position without engaging in "virtue signaling," then the inevitable result is we are all "virtue signaling."
                  Oh, a great many people can. You appear to have a penchant for virtue signaling regardless of the topic on which you're opining.
                  Maybe this is one of those "unconscious biases" you're so keen on, but you consistently come across as if declaiming from a position of moral superiority.
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                  • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                    For one thing, it's not a meme.
                    By now y'all should realize that whenever carpe is confronted by anything that does not match his narrative he tends to hand wave it off as being nothing but a right wing meme.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

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                    • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                      It does not change the fact that constantly reinforcing the theme "violence is linked to blackness" actually DOES do social harm; it perpetuates a stereotype that harms every single black person NOT so engaged.
                      If Seer was actually "reinforcing the theme 'violence is linked to blackness'" you might actually have had a point with all this, but he isn't, so you don't. You're the one actually reinforcing that theme by constantly trying to insist Seer's words mean something they don't. Seer is not responsible for you, or anyone else misinterpreting his words when his actual point is clear for anyone who's actually been following his discussion with Shuny in this thread.

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                      • Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
                        If Seer was actually "reinforcing the theme 'violence is linked to blackness'" you might actually have had a point with all this, but he isn't, so you don't. You're the one actually reinforcing that theme by constantly trying to insist Seer's words mean something they don't. Seer is not responsible for you, or anyone else misinterpreting his words when his actual point is clear for anyone who's actually been following his discussion with Shuny in this thread.
                        Thank you...
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                        • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                          Again Mafia kill Mafia and other gang members, and whites kill whites at a horrible rate. Not even a relevant issue in the topic.

                          Again, again and again . . . your are portraying and stereotyping blacks as violent because they are black.
                          It is relevant Shuny, if the violence in the black community explains the higher rates of violence between blacks and cops as opposed to the cops being inherently racist.
                          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

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                          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            What a great way to begin a post!
                            I thought so...
                            The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                            I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                            • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                              For one thing, it's not a meme. Now you have the Democrat party pushing for reparations prompting one black athlete to say,

                              "I used to be a Democrat until I did my history and found out the misery that that party brought to my race... Let's pay restitution. How about the Democratic Party pay for all the misery brought to my race..."

                              https://www.breitbart.com/sports/201...y-reparations/
                              So Brietbart cherry picks one black person that agrees with you and this is proof you are right?

                              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                              You make it sound like an active quality rather than a passive attribute like skin color. Obviously whatever the problem is in the black community, it's cultural and not biological. So if "being black" means wearing your pants low on your hips and flashing gang signs then that needs to change.
                              I have responded to this, so I'll let me previous responses stand.
                              The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                              I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                              • Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
                                If Seer was actually "reinforcing the theme 'violence is linked to blackness'" you might actually have had a point with all this, but he isn't, so you don't. You're the one actually reinforcing that theme by constantly trying to insist Seer's words mean something they don't. Seer is not responsible for you, or anyone else misinterpreting his words when his actual point is clear for anyone who's actually been following his discussion with Shuny in this thread.
                                As I said, Chrawnus, I am under no illusion that Seer is racist or intending to link violence to race. I think his words inevitably do. I am suggesting people consider what impact constantly hearing, "black people are more violent" has in our society, and recommending a change in language to reflect what is actually intended, and perhaps shift attention from "black people" to "poverty" and "education" in the process.
                                The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                                I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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