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  • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
    What then is the cause of the culture other than your accusation of race being the statistical cause of your race generalization concerning poverty .

    Again, again and again poverty is not the issue here. Fatherless homes are problem in all races including white, and your explanation is blatantly inadequate.
    You tell me why blacks, 13% of the population, commit 51% of the murders? And the vast majority of that is black on black crime?


    So what?!?!?! Poverty is not the issue.
    So what is the cause of black on black crime that is so disproportionate to what we find in white communities? And remember it was Carp who said it was a poverty issue.
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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    • Originally posted by seer View Post
      Idiot, it was not an accusation, it was a fact. A fact that may explain why there are more violent encounters between blacks and cops. Because cops are patrolling more these more violent communities.
      Actually, multiple studies have shown that a white person stands a considerably higher chance of getting shot by a police officer during a confrontation than does a black person. This has been demonstrated often enough now that researchers are now turning to investigate why that is (several theories).

      As for blacks confronting the police, comedian Chris Rock has an absolutely hilarious video on that subject which I cannot link to due to foul language called "How not to get your [word for a donkey] kicked by the police!"

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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      • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        Actually, multiple studies have shown that a white person stands a considerably higher chance of getting shot by a police officer during a confrontation than does a black person. This has been demonstrated often enough now that researchers are now turning to investigate why that is (several theories).
        Yep...

        The Reverse Racism Effect: Are Cops More Hesitant to Shoot Black Than White Suspects?


        We found that, despite clear evidence of implicit bias against Black suspects, officers were slower to shoot armed Black suspects than armed White suspects, and they were less likely to shoot unarmed Black suspects than unarmed White suspects. These findings challenge the assumption that implicit racial bias affects police behavior in deadly encounters with Black suspects

        https://www.researchgate.net/publica...White_Suspects
        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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        • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          Actually, multiple studies have shown that a white person stands a considerably higher chance of getting shot by a police officer during a confrontation than does a black person. This has been demonstrated often enough now that researchers are now turning to investigate why that is (several theories).
          They are easier to see in the dark?


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          • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            They are easier to see in the dark?

            I'm so glad I didn't say that!
            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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            • It has not been published yet, but there will be a study released soon showing the number of officers who were killed or wounded as a result of not responding quickly enough to a threat due to the threat being in the form of a black male. Bodycam footage will be included.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • Originally posted by seer View Post
                You tell me why blacks, 13% of the population, commit 51% of the murders? And the vast majority of that is black on black crime?
                This could be true, but it represents a selective citation of rational reasons that you choose to justify your agenda. First in racial and ethnic crime, like the Mafia the Italians killed more Italians than anyone else. I believe in 'White crime,' such as gangs more whites are killed by whites in part simply the wars between gangs.

                Second it is the destruction of Black cultural cohesion by the persecution of blacks particularly men throughout society.

                So what is the cause of black on black crime that is so disproportionate to what we find in white communities? And remember it was Carp who said it was a poverty issue.
                I disagree with Carp as far as 'being a poverty issue.' What you are neglecting there is history of the white/Black relationships. Why are blacks in Black ghettos, and historically enslaved, racially persecuted, racially stereotyped and profilled. The judicial system is also involved in this historical injustice.

                You need to realize that slavery did not end with the Civil War. It persisted long after as large scale 'penal servitude,' plantation slavery, feudal servitude on plantation well up to and into the early 20th century. These issues continued in the 20th century in many ways. After WWII Blacks were deprived of post war veterans benefits such as home loans and education GI Bill benefits. It has been only recently that Blacks have been even given the right to vote. You apparently do not realize, or simply choose to conveniently ignore history based on your agenda.
                Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                go with the flow the river knows . . .

                Frank

                I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  It has not been published yet, but there will be a study released soon showing the number of officers who were killed or wounded as a result of not responding quickly enough to a threat due to the threat being in the form of a black male. Bodycam footage will be included.
                  Your still ignoring the history and whole picture involving the racism involved.
                  Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                  Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                  But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                  go with the flow the river knows . . .

                  Frank

                  I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                  • Originally posted by rogue06
                    Actually, multiple studies have shown that a white person stands a considerably higher chance of getting shot by a police officer during a confrontation than does a black person. This has been demonstrated often enough now that researchers are now turning to investigate why that is (several theories).
                    What studies. Multiple is a big number.
                    Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                    Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                    But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                    go with the flow the river knows . . .

                    Frank

                    I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                    • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                      Your
                      You're.

                      still ignoring the history and whole picture involving the racism involved.
                      No, I'm not. I'm showing that the white police officer is often just as much a victim in this thing, and, IMOHBAO, it's as much the fault of the race baiters like Al Sharpton and Obama and his wingman/AG....
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        Actually, multiple studies have shown that a white person stands a considerably higher chance of getting shot by a police officer during a confrontation than does a black person. This has been demonstrated often enough now that researchers are now turning to investigate why that is (several theories).

                        As for blacks confronting the police, comedian Chris Rock has an absolutely hilarious video on that subject which I cannot link to due to foul language called "How not to get your [word for a donkey] kicked by the police!"
                        That video is a classic.
                        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                        Than a fool in the eyes of God


                        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                        • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                          This could be true, but it represents a selective citation of rational reasons that you choose to justify your agenda. First in racial and ethnic crime, like the Mafia the Italians killed more Italians than anyone else. I believe in 'White crime,' such as gangs more whites are killed by whites in part simply the wars between gangs.
                          Yes, and I mentioned the Italians of old. And it was not a selective citation it was from the FBI crime report. And nothing I said was untrue, blacks commit higher rates of violent crimes, and it is not racism causing them do do it.

                          Second it is the destruction of Black cultural cohesion by the persecution of blacks particularly men throughout society.
                          So racism is making blacks kill blacks? And try looking at the black family which was more more cohesive 50-60 years ago when racism was much worse.


                          I disagree with Carp as far as 'being a poverty issue.' What you are neglecting there is history of the white/Black relationships. Why are blacks in Black ghettos, and historically enslaved, racially persecuted, racially stereotyped and profilled. The judicial system is also involved in this historical injustice.
                          Right you are speaking of things that happened decades ago. Show where there is governmental racism today.
                          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                          • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                            What studies. Multiple is a big number.
                            Posted this while the Ferguson shooting was still hot
                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post


                            Only one problem with that. Blacks who only constitute 13% of the population commit nearly 50% of the crime. So one can concluded that police confrontations are roughly equal. And yet, whites are more likely to be killed as a result of such a confrontation. This has been confirmed by research conducted at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice at the City University of New York, which shows that approximately 49% of those killed by officers from May 2013 to April 2015 were white, while 30% were black.

                            Likewise, a study by Washington State University-Spokane's Department of Criminal Justice and Criminology concluded that police "were less likely to erroneously shoot unarmed black suspects than they were unarmed whites — 25 times less likely" as well as "officers hesitated significantly longer before shooting armed suspects who were black, compared to armed subjects who were white or Hispanic."

                            ProPublica, which has won two Pulitzer Prizes (the first online news organization to win one) along with several other awards, conducted a similar study utilizing FBI data from 1980-2012 and came to similar conclusions.

                            PolitiFact looked into the claim and used statistics provided by the CDC and concluded that 2151 whites died by being shot by police compared to 1130 blacks between 1999 and 2011.

                            Again, keep in mind, since blacks are essentially responsible for half of the violent crimes committed in the U.S. there is going to be roughly an equal number of confrontations. And if you believe the hype from black activists that blacks are far more likely (one claimed something like ten times more likely) to be stopped by the police, then blacks have more encounters with the police in total meaning that these statistics are even more startling.

                            I guess we should be expecting massive protests about how "White Lives Matter" any day now.

                            And the Washington Times ran this shortly after:

                            Source: Police kill more whites than blacks, but minority deaths generate more outrage


                            Nobel Prize-winning novelist Toni Morrison says she wants to see an officer shoot an unarmed white teenager in the back before agreeing that the “conversation about race” is over, but she almost certainly already has received her wish.

                            An analysis released last week shows that more white people died at the hands of law enforcement than those of any other race in the last two years, even as the Justice Department, social-justice groups and media coverage focus on black victims of police force.

                            ...

                            Meanwhile, the deaths of whites at the hands of law enforcement typically receive less attention, even when the case is shrouded in controversy. For example, Gilbert Collar, an 18-year-old white student at the University of South Alabama, was shot and killed while naked, unarmed and under the influence of drugs by a black police officer.

                            The officer, Trevis Austin, was cleared of wrongdoing in 2013 by a Mobile County grand jury in a case that received little media coverage outside Alabama. Mr. Collar’s parents filed a federal lawsuit last year against the officer.

                            As researchers are quick to point out, FBI data on police shootings by race is notoriously incomplete, which may explain why Peter Moskos, assistant professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice at the City University of New York, decided to use figures from the website Killed by Police.

                            Based on that data, Mr. Moskos reported that roughly 49 percent of those killed by officers from May 2013 to April 2015 were white, while 30 percent were black. He also found that 19 percent were Hispanic and 2 percent were Asian and other races.

                            His results, posted last week on his blog Cop in the Hood, arrived with several caveats, notably that 25 percent of the website’s data, which is drawn largely from news reports, failed to show the race of the person killed.

                            Killed by Police lists every death, justified or not, including those in which the officer had been wounded or acted in self-defense.

                            “The data doesn’t indicate which shootings are justified (the vast majority) and which are cold-blooded murder (not many, but some). And maybe that would vary by race. I don’t know, but I doubt it,” Mr. Moskos said on his blog.

                            Adjusted to take into account the racial breakdown of the U.S. population, he said black men are 3.5 times more likely to be killed by police than white men. But also adjusted to take into account the racial breakdown in violent crime, the data actually show that police are less likely to kill black suspects than white ones.

                            “If one adjusts for the racial disparity in the homicide rate or the rate at which police are feloniously killed, whites are actually more likely to be killed by police than blacks,” said Mr. Moskos, a former Baltimore cop and author of the book “Cop in the Hood.”

                            “Adjusted for the homicide rate, whites are 1.7 times more likely than blacks die at the hands of police,” he said. “Adjusted for the racial disparity at which police are feloniously killed, whites are 1.3 times more likely than blacks to die at the hands of police.”

                            Mr. Moskos listed two possible reasons for the racial disparity. The first is that police assigned to largely black neighborhoods face “more political fallout when they shoot, and thus receive better training and are less inclined to shoot.”

                            The second is that police assigned to black communities with high crime rates are more accustomed to dangerous situations and thus are more likely to be able to resolve them without resort to lethal force.

                            Figures on police shootings by race are thin on the ground, but Mr. Moskos’s results have some support: The investigative journalism website ProPublica came up with a similar percentage in an Oct. 10 article, reporting that 44 percent of all those killed by police were white, using FBI data from 1980 to 2012.

                            The fact-checking website PolitiFact concluded in August 2014 that police kill more whites than blacks after the claim was made by conservative commentator Michael Medved. PolitiFact cited data from the Centers for Disease Control on fatal injuries by “legal intervention” from 1999 to 2011.

                            “Over the span of more than a decade, 2,151 whites died by being shot by police compared to 1,130 blacks. In that respect, Medved is correct,” said PolitiFact.

                            But PolitiFact gave his assertion a “half true” rating because whites make up 63 percent of the population, while blacks make up just 12 percent.

                            “Yes, more whites than blacks die as a result of an encounter with police, but whites also represent a much bigger chunk of the total population,” PolitiFact said in its Aug. 21 post.

                            But PolitiFact did not take into account the percentage of those by race involved in violent crime or shootings of police, as Mr. Moskos did.

                            Despite the recent flood of media coverage involving police shootings, Mr. Moskos advised his readers to “keep all this morbidity in perspective,” reminding them that very few people, white or black, will ever be shot or killed by police.

                            “The odds that any given black man will shoot and kill a police officer in any given year is slim to none, about one in a million. The odds for any given white man? One in four million,” he said. “The odds that a black man will be shot and killed by a police officer is about 1 in 60,000. For a white man those odds are 1 in 200,000.”



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                            Wrt the last statistic, a recent study that a black person living in Chicago has an 1.13 in 1000 chance of being shot. Period. Funny how groups like Black Lives Matter and liberal politicians aren't up in arms (no pun intended) about this. But then they can't blame whites, or the police or give their typical knee jerk reaction of demanding stricter gun control since Chicago already has some of the toughest gun laws in the country.

                            I'm always still in trouble again

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                            • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                              That video is a classic.
                              I just watched it... So true...
                              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                              • Originally posted by seer View Post
                                I just watched it... So true...
                                The information/advice is really good, but being Chris Rock there is going to be profanity every other sentence.

                                Still. It is funny.

                                I'm always still in trouble again

                                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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