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Symbol = the word "penny" - Objective reality = "that round, lowest valued coin used in the U.S.
Symbol = the rock - Objective reality is the walks and talks had with my father.
You see now? If the latter is no more or less arbitrary than the former. Both have a symbol - both linked to an external objective reality.
Originally posted by Mountain Man
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Originally posted by Mountain Man
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Originally posted by Mountain Man
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But they are adding to the definition of meaning. Look at all of those definitions associated with the Merriam Webster site, and show me which one incorporates "eternal" or "absolute" in the definition. There is no such thing. You (and those atheists you quoted) are adding it to the definition to hold the position. And you play verbal slight of hand by saying "everything is meaningless" when you are actually saying "everything is ultimately meaningless." I agree with the statement "everything is ultimately meaningless." I don't agree with the statement "everything is meaningless."
And I disagree with the attempt to paint subjective meaning as "illusory" or "fiction." The people who attempt to do this don't even live that way themselves, making them much like the philosopher who argues for an entire class session that the walls around us are insubstantial, and then exits the room by way of the door.
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