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Discussion on matters of general mainstream evangelical Christian theology that do not fit within Theology 201. Have some spiritual gifts ceased today? Is the KJV the only viable translation for the church today? In what sense are the books of the bible inspired and what are those books? Church government? Modern day prophets and apostles?
This forum is primarily for Christians to discuss matters of Christian doctrine, and is not the area for debate between atheists (or those opposing orthodox Christianity) and Christians. Inquiring atheists (or sincere seekers/doubters/unorthodox) seeking only Christian participation and having demonstrated a manner that does not seek to undermine the orthodox Christian faith of others are also welcome, but must seek Moderator permission first. When defining “Christian” or "orthodox" for purposes of this section, we mean persons holding to the core essentials of the historic Christian faith such as the Trinity, the Creatorship of God, the virgin birth, the bodily resurrection of Christ, the atonement, the future bodily return of Christ, the future bodily resurrection of the just and the unjust, and the final judgment. Persons not holding to these core doctrines are welcome to participate in the Comparative Religions section without restriction, in Theology 201 as regards to the nature of God and salvation with limited restrictions, and in Christology for issues surrounding the person of Christ and the Trinity. Atheists are welcome to discuss and debate these issues in the Apologetics 301 forum without such restrictions.
Additionally and rarely, there may be some topics or lines of discussion that within the Moderator's discretion fall so outside the bounds of mainstream orthodox doctrine (in general Christian circles or in the TheologyWeb community) or that deny certain core values that are the Christian convictions of forum leadership that may be more appropriately placed within Unorthodox Theology 201. NO personal offense should be taken by such discretionary decision for none is intended. While inerrancy is NOT considered a requirement for posting in this section, a general respect for the Bible text and a respect for the inerrantist position of others is requested.
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Originally posted by Obsidian View PostOr they'll make you "Stand for the reading of God's word" at the beginning (which is stupid), then read a passage of several verses to you, and then you'll sit down and that'll be the end of the Bible citations.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThen there are the preachers who try to keep the congregation engaged by saying, "I'm almost done!" even when they're not. I knew one preacher who would start that routine 15-minutes in to a 90-minute message.
We know by then that it's going to be a 2 or 3 parter.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI went to a catholic service one time and it seemed to be a constant series of stand/sit/stand/sit. I almost broke out laughing.
Sitting at all in church, except for the elderly/infirm, is a fairly modern conception. The sermon as focal point is a Reformation thing.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostECREE. There had to be a few "kneel" periods in there somewhere, too.
Sitting at all in church, except for the elderly/infirm, is a fairly modern conception. The sermon as focal point is a Reformation thing.
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostThe pastor we listen to often is 45 minutes into a 60 minute sermon and says, "That was the introduction".
We know by then that it's going to be a 2 or 3 parter.
(And also to not sit in open windows.)Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostThere does come a time where the company at a church starts to interfere with one's own walk: that's when the idea of wiping the dust from one's feet does become worthy of consideration."For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI think the story about Paul preaching late into the night, and the young man falling asleep and tumbling out of a second story window is a cautionary tale to pastors to keep their sermons short!
(And also to not sit in open windows.)
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI went to a catholic service one time and it seemed to be a constant series of stand/sit/stand/sit. I almost broke out laughing.Last edited by Rushing Jaws; 06-30-2019, 05:14 PM.
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Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View PostI think the Easter sermon was the end for me. Instead of a solid, triumphant "Christ is risen!" I got a sermon I titled "Taking selfies at the empty tomb." That's when I really internalized, they're happy as they are and I would be viewed as divisive if I tried to change even a small part. [par. 2, emphasis added]For Neo-Remonstration (Arminian/Remonstrant ruminations): <https://theremonstrant.blogspot.com>
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