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    Two stories in the last week:

    1. The US planted offensive malware in Russia's power grid
    The US appears to be acting on its promise to aggressively respond to cyberwarfare threats. New York Times sources say Cyber Command has planted offensive malware in Russia's electrical grid, not just reconnaissance as has been the case since "at least" 2012. It's not certain just how deep the infiltration goes or what malware is capable of doing. The intention, however, is clear -- this is meant both to serve as a deterrent as well as a weapon in case the US and Russia trade blows.

    The military branch is reportedly taking advantage of measures in a 2018 defense authorization bill permitting secret online campaigns to "deter, safeguard or defend against" cyberattacks without requiring explicit presidential approval. President Trump, who claimed that Russia had stopped cyberattacks, isn't believed to have been briefed on the malware plants.
    https://www.engadget.com/2019/06/15/...ia-power-grid/

    2. US cyberattack reportedly knocked out Iran missile control systems

    The US may have withheld a physical military response to Iran shooting down a drone, but it might not have shown similar restraint with a digital campaign. Washington Post sources say the President greenlit a long-in-the-making cyberattack that took down Iranian missile control computers on the night of June 20th. The exact impact of the Cyber Command operation isn't clear, but it was described as "crippling" -- Iran couldn't easily recover, one tipster said.
    https://www.engadget.com/2019/06/22/...control-syste/


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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
      On that first one. I wonder if it is true, about planting malware in the Russian grid? If so, why would they admit it? Seems pretty stupid to admit it. Unless it ISN'T true and they just want the Russians to spend time and effort looking for this malware that doesn't exist. But in either case, it also means that the Russians will now be trying to do the same to us.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
        On that first one. I wonder if it is true, about planting malware in the Russian grid? If so, why would they admit it? Seems pretty stupid to admit it. Unless it ISN'T true and they just want the Russians to spend time and effort looking for this malware that doesn't exist. But in either case, it also means that the Russians will now be trying to do the same to us.
        Since when has the NYT shown a concern for national security?
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        • #5
          Actually. if the Russians already know, it's good PR to other, less financially endowed nations. We play in the big boy league - sure you wanna play, Iran?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
            Since when has the NYT shown a concern for national security?
            True.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
              Since when has the NYT shown a concern for national security?
              If it's true, I'm less concerned about the Times reporting it than I am the implication that there are still traitors inside the Trump administration who are continuing to leak national security secrets to the media (and who knows who else).
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                If it's true, I'm less concerned about the Times reporting it than I am the implication that there are still traitors inside the Trump administration who are continuing to leak national security secrets to the media (and who knows who else).
                Yes, that is a concern.
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                • #9
                  So according to the NYT, this is a response to Russia having done it to us first.

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                  Advocates of the more aggressive strategy said it was long overdue, after years of public warnings from the Department of Homeland Security and the F.B.I. that Russia has inserted malware that could sabotage American power plants, oil and gas pipelines, or water supplies in any future conflict with the United States.

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/15/u...ssia-grid.html

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                  • #10
                    So in the future, instead of drafting physically fit people into the military, they will be drafting nerds and hackers, and instead of 6 weeks of grueling basic training they will feed them pizza and Red Bull.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                      So in the future, instead of drafting physically fit people into the military, they will be drafting nerds and hackers, and instead of 6 weeks of grueling basic training they will feed them pizza and Red Bull.
                      Hot pockets.
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                      - She

                      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                      I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                      - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        So in the future, instead of drafting physically fit people into the military, they will be drafting nerds and hackers, and instead of 6 weeks of grueling basic training they will feed them pizza and Red Bull.
                        And Code Red Mountain Dew.
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