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  • #76
    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
    You are quoting verses that have nothing to do with hell or heaven or individuals.
    Sodom was a city made up of individuals, which will be restored!

    In the parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man, the Rich Man was clearly repentant, and begged Abraham to warn his family. Yet he wasn't let out. I can't find any verse that says you can be let out of hell or that there will be a second judgment to let you free.
    He doesn't seem repentant, actually, he doesn't express sorrow to Lazarus for his mistreatment, for instance.

    In fact, Hebrews 9 says 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment
    Yes, people are cast into hell, into the lake of fire.

    Blessings,
    Lee
    "What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)

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    • #77
      Originally posted by The Remonstrant View Post
      If Calvinism leads to universalistic musings, I would highly recommend Arminianism in its stead.
      Thanks for the recommendation, but I am convinced of my Calvinism. As I am convinced that "God's desires are not frustrated" (getting back to the topic of the thread).

      Blessings,
      Lee
      "What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)

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      • #78
        Originally posted by lee_merrill View Post
        Sodom was a city made up of individuals, which will be restored!
        uh no.




        Yes, people are cast into hell, into the lake of fire.

        Blessings,
        Lee
        And none of them came back out. That's kind of what "for ever and ever" means.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
          Originally posted by lee_merrill
          Sodom was a city made up of individuals, which will be restored!
          uh no.
          Well, what part of this do you disagree with?

          And none of them came back out. That's kind of what "for ever and ever" means.
          And Sodom is an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire. (Jude 7)

          Blessings,
          Lee
          "What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)

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