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Another Credible Rape Claim Against Trump....
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostI love your self righteousness, but we all know your hatred of Trump is what makes you automatically believe. Sorry, but I’m not mocking anyone because it is true that this women has a ‘tell all’ book coming out and quite honestly, I doubt Trump would have to work all that hard to sleep with tons of women. Being a sleeze and a rapist, is two different things.
Next time I criticize someone for supporting a rapist, I'll try to remember how 'self-righteous' that is
My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI think his history establishes quite clearly this is who he is. He even confessed as much on the Access Hollywood tape. But yes - I'm going to believe a women like this before I'm going to believe Trump's denials.
Jim
Thanks for the admission."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
Next time I criticize someone for supporting a rapist, I'll try to remember how 'self-righteous' that is
A your credibility slips down even further. Now beyond your guilty till proved innocent logic, where’s the evidence a crime took place? See I one of my closest friends was a victim of rape. That’s one of the reasons I hate the left’s weaponizing of rape accusations, where they throw out an accusation against someone they dislike and force the accused into the impossible task of proving a negative, is it does real damage to men and women. The best part is how such cases are almost never taken to trial because the case would likely fall apart faster than a house of cards. Who cares though of these accusations, supported by little to no evidence, do real harm to both men falsely accused and women who were raped? As long as you can ‘get Trump’ right?Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 06-26-2019, 06:06 PM."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostAs opposed to doing the sensible thing, and suspend judgement until more information and/or evidence comes to light?"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostIt is interesting how all these accusers get big piles of cash for making claims that have no evidence of support. It’s almost as if there’s an agenda there...Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostBut here is a link to another women (Jessica Leads) telling a similar story talking about Carroll.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...-ac360-vpx.cnn
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...-donald-trump/
It's also curious how Leeds' accusation was almost word for the word the same as another woman who two-years earlier had accused a British man of sexual assault.
The British woman's accusation: "He sort of came over to me and pressed himself against me. He touched both breasts over the clothing … He was like an octopus. Hands everywhere."
Leeds' also claims that Trump touched her breasts over her clothing and that "He was like an octopus...his hands were everywhere."
Hmmm...!
You guys really need to find a better class of accusers.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post‘How dare you ask for evidence of guilt, you’re a rapist supporter!’
A your credibility slips down even further. Now beyond your guilty till proved innocent logic, where’s the evidence a crime took place? See I one of my closest friends was a victim of rape. That’s one of the reasons I hate the left’s weaponizing of rape accusations, where they throw out an accusation against someone they dislike and force the accused into the impossible task of proving a negative, is it does real damage to men and women. The best part is how such cases are almost never taken to trial because the case would likely fall apart faster than a house of cards. Who cares though of these accusations, supported by little to no evidence, do real harm to both men falsely accused and women who were raped? As long as you can ‘get Trump’ right?
Sure - it's 'he said/she said'. But Trump has zero credibility on this front, so I'll chose to believe her unless credible evidence surfaces to the contrary. You can chose to believe Trump if you wish, but on this topic, that is a fool's errand. And in the end, I think you are going to find you've been supporting one of the most nasty men around in this arena.
So here's a question for you. You have a friend that was raped. Suppose we could prove that Trump is EXACTLY who he claimed to be in that access hollywood tape. Who are you going to side with - are you going to reject Trump, or are you going to continue to sidle up to him knowing full well that if he were ever alone with your friend and she is pretty enough, he'd attack her too.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI seriously doubt this women or the one I linked to talking about her just decided it would make their day to try to make a false accusation of rape or sexual harassment against Donald Trump. Donald Trump is just the sort of fellow to do exactly what she said - by his own admission.
Sure - it's 'he said/she said'. But Trump has zero credibility on this front, so I'll chose to believe her unless credible evidence surfaces to the contrary. You can chose to believe Trump if you wish, but on this topic, that is a fool's errand. And in the end, I think you are going to find you've been supporting one of the most nasty men around in this arena.
So here's a question for you. You have a friend that was raped. Suppose we could prove that Trump is EXACTLY who he claimed to be in that access hollywood tape. Who are you going to side with - are you going to reject Trump, or are you going to continue to sidle up to him knowing full well that if he were ever alone with your friend and she is pretty enough, he'd attack her too.
JimEnter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI seriously doubt this women or the one I linked to talking about her just decided it would make their day to try to make a false accusation of rape or sexual harassment against Donald Trump. Donald Trump is just the sort of fellow to do exactly what she said - by his own admission.
Sure - it's 'he said/she said'. But Trump has zero credibility on this front, so I'll chose to believe her unless credible evidence surfaces to the contrary. You can chose to believe Trump if you wish, but on this topic, that is a fool's errand. And in the end, I think you are going to find you've been supporting one of the most nasty men around in this arena.
So here's a question for you. You have a friend that was raped. Suppose we could prove that Trump is EXACTLY who he claimed to be in that access hollywood tape. Who are you going to side with - are you going to reject Trump, or are you going to continue to sidle up to him knowing full well that if he were ever alone with your friend and she is pretty enough, he'd attack her too.
Jim"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostI’d go with what evidence says, not feelings. I know it’s a novel concept, but claiming to be raped, sad to say, isn’t an uncommon occurrence. Saying you were raped by somebody with money and power, making the accusation on national TV, promoting a ‘tell all book’ in an attempt to cash in, than making a lame excuse of why you won’t press charges, stinks of corruption and isn’t how a typical rape victim acts. I know you’re raw hatred keeps you from seeing reality, but those are all warning sirens that something doesn’t pass the sniff test.
You are living in a fantasy pixie, a paranoid one at that. Trump has sowed wild oats from here to china and back, and they keep coming back to haunt him. Trump has as much chance of being 'not guilty' on this as Lance Armstrong had of 'not doping'.
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 06-26-2019, 09:46 PM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostPlease forgive me for thinking it was possible to have a reasonable discussion with you on anything Trump-related. There is literally nothing I could say short of capitulating to agreement with whatever you say that would get through to you. Feel free to make that all my fault. Bowing out.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostNo you don't. All the evidence shows Trump as a womanizer who's had multiple affairs and who openly claims to kiss women without even asking, any time he wants, so often he doesn't even think about it, so much as to put his hand anywhere he wants and get away with it. He revels in his power to do whatever he wants to women. He didn't get to where he could make that boast without leaving a trail of women he experimented on to find out that is what he could do.
You are living in a fantasy pixie, a paranoid one at that. Trump has sowed wild oats from here to china and back, and they keep coming back to haunt him. Trump has as much chance of being 'not guilty' on this as Lance Armstrong had of 'not doping'.
Jim"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostBeing a womanizer doesn’t make one a rapist. While you’re tin foil hat conspiracies are amusing, you have little more than assumption. I think you’re a serial killer that killed 20 people because that sounds like something you’d do. Prove you’re not. Like I said, you’re using a guilty till proven innocent model with no evidence beyond assertions and character assassination.
And I note all of them get huge paychecks and piles of money, but not a single one decides to press charges, in court. Why, if it’s so obvious? I know, because the goal is to get the court of public opinion to pull a Jim and get out their noose with little to no supporting evidence of a crime. While it’s cute you try to argue through emotion, I don’t. Facts are what matter here and being a womanizer does not equal rapist. I’ve been in the military for 15 years, I know lots of them. Almost none of them are rapist or I’d suspect as being one because it really isn’t hard for a man to sleep with lots of women, being a billionaire pretty much makes it as easy as being a rockstar.
As feisty as you are, i can only imagine what might be missing on trump if he tried it on you. But the point is, I cant for the life of me figure how you can minimize what he is doing, and be so willing and eager to throw the women that claim he did to them exactly what he boasts of doing under the bus.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostHe boasts of putting his hand anywhere he wants. Pix he said where that was. He boasts of not even asking, just kissing them. It extreme sexual harassment at best.
As feisty as you are, i can only imagine what might be missing on trump if he tried it on you. But the point is, I cant for the life of me figure how you can minimize what he is doing, and be so willing and eager to throw the women that claim he did to them exactly what he boasts of doing under the bus.
Jim"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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