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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThe problems with Sjælsmark and the other camps being inhumane. The problems that drove the last government to consider sending the refugees to an island. The problem of actually considering putting them on an island. All while dealing with a much smaller number of people than the US has to. We are talking over 30,000 a month at the southern border."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Raphael View PostDenmark is part of the EU. The EU effectively is open bordersThe ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostI mean the stupid multi-quote is STILL on. I'm trying to irrationally blame you, remember?
Besides...I'm somewhat used to it around here...The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostUmm...I don't think so. Passing country-to-country without passports and/or visas between EU members is supported. I don't think you can simply change countries and automatically gain citizenship in the new country. I'm not sure about the rules related to relocating and living in another EU country long-term. But all of this is only between participating countries.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostI think right of movement is limited to citizens of EU nations. Which would mean... you are not actually wrong...
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostI think right of movement is limited to citizens of EU nations. Which would mean... you are not actually wrong...
For once...The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Interesting points given by Sam Kim in Christianity Today in the article Are We Morally Distressed by What is Taking Place on Our Border?:
Jesus was a baby born in the Middle East who became a refugee in Africa because of the rage of a mad king. As a migrant who took shelter in a foreign country, he understood the ambivalence of living in the shadows. I can’t think of a better way of lifting Jesus high than saving refugees who are in peril.No matter where we lean politically or how we’ve been informed, the majority of those coming to the southern border today are women and children legally seeking asylum and protection from violence.A recent study by Lifeway Research reveals that the Bible only influences one in ten evangelicals on immigration (10 percent), and at 0.2 percent the local church’s influence in the matter is five times less than that. The study concludes that the secular media, at 16 percent, has more influence on evangelicals on the issue of immigration than the Bible and the local church combined! American evangelicals appear to be more heavily influenced by a cultural and pagan view of immigration than one that is biblical.
Christian apologist Os Guinness asserts that when we look at evangelicalism today, we find the world and the spirit of the age are more dominant than the Word and Spirit of God. The church in the United States is strong numerically, but weak spiritually, because it is worldly. Churches in America are both in the world and of the world; and, as a result, is in a condition of profound cultural captivity."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostInteresting points given by Sam Kim in Christianity Today in the article Are We Morally Distressed by What is Taking Place on Our Border?:
No matter where we lean politically or how we’ve been informed, the majority of those coming to the southern border today are women and children legally seeking asylum and protection from violence.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostProve that..."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostSo, you agree on all the rest? Or was your "prove that" an attempt to avoid the other points Sam Kim made?
https://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/539/Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostSam can say what he wants, I don't, and will not, agree with illegal immigration. And remember Jesus and his family went back to their own country nor did they break the laws of the foreign country they found refuge in as far as we know. So again demonstrate that the majority have legal asylum rights by our laws. The fact is recently 65% were denied.
https://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/539/"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by seer View PostSam can say what he wants, I don't, and will not, agree with illegal immigration. And remember Jesus and his family went back to their own country nor did they break the laws of the foreign country they found refuge in as far as we know. So again demonstrate that the majority have legal asylum rights by our laws. The fact is recently 65% were denied.
https://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/539/
1) Provide points for application outside the U.S.
2) Reduce the review process to a few weeks by providing adequate resources to execute those reviews expeditiously.
When people realize that only a fraction of the people applying are being granted asylum because the rest don't meet the requirements, they will tend to think twice about spending massive amount of money and exposing themselves to the dangers of the journey only to be denied and sent back. Meanwhile, we won't be turning away people who actually DO qualify for asylum, so we will continue to be acting in good faith among the international community.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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