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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    But couldn't use "wicked Hillary" apparently.
    Not necessarily "couldn't" - but I praise Him that He didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Deaths of migrants who illegally crossed the border during the first two years of the Trump administration fell about 20 percent from the eight-year average under the Obama era. This is in sharp contrast to the political rhetoric of Democrat presidential candidates and certain media outlets decrying the treatment of migrants under President Donald Trump’s watch.

    During the eight years of the Obama administration, 2,977 migrants died after illegally crossing the southwest border with Mexico — 372 per year on average, according to a report obtained from U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials.

    During the first two complete fiscal years of the Trump administration, 581 migrants died — an average of 291 per year. Despite massively higher border apprehensions in Fiscal Year 2019, the number of deaths appears to be on par with the two prior years, according to the International Organization for Migrants’ Missing Migrant Project. This represents about a 20 percent drop from the Obama administration’s reported migrant deaths.

    https://www.breitbart.com/border/201...n-obama-years/

    Trump is showing a surprising amount of restraint for a Hitler wannabe running concentration camps.
    Where on earth do ANY of these numbers come from? Here is a list of everyone who has died while in ICE custody from 10/7/2003 through 5/31/2017. It numbers 172 total. It includes names, dates of death, dates of birth, and other demographic info.

    I'd love to know where 2977 comes from, or even the 500+ under Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    Where on earth do ANY of these numbers come from? Here is a list of everyone who has died while in ICE custody from 10/7/2003 through 5/31/2017. It numbers 172 total. It includes names, dates of death, dates of birth, and other demographic info.

    I'd love to know where 2977 comes from, or even the 500+ under Trump.
    *emphasis mine

    Seriously? It's in the VERY FIRST PARAGRAPH and you don't know?

    Let me help - 'crossing the border' and 'in custody' are NOT the same thing.


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    During the eight years of the Obama administration, 2,977 migrants died after illegally crossing the southwest border with Mexico — 372 per year on average, according to a report obtained from U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials.
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    *emphasis mine


    They are discussing a reduction of the number of deaths in toto - not just those in custody. It is explicitly stated in the opening paragraph.


    Okay, you and MM can argue this for the next five pages now...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post


    Okay, you and MM can argue this for the next five pages now...

    Then one of them can feign exasperation and declare "you can have the last word".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Then one of them can feign exasperation and declare "you can have the last word".
    That usually happens on page 2 and they keep going for another three pages...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post
    *emphasis mine

    Seriously? It's in the VERY FIRST PARAGRAPH and you don't know?

    Let me help - 'crossing the border' and 'in custody' are NOT the same thing.

    *emphasis mine

    They are discussing a reduction of the number of deaths in toto - not just those in custody. It is explicitly stated in the opening paragraph.

    Okay, you and MM can argue this for the next five pages now...

    No need to argue. I made a stupid mistake due to lack of attention-paying. My bad.

    I'd still like to see more than a few isolated statistics. Things like, "out of how many total people crossing," which should be a major part of the story - but "fun with statistics" and it doesn't seem to be reported. The number in isolation doesn't tell us much.
    The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Not necessarily "couldn't" - but I praise Him that He didn't.
    Well one can understand that given the documented dangers of a Hillary Clinton presidency and the benefits of a Trump one.

    https://qz.com/1369399/david-peckers...to-help-trump/
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    Caravan Of Liberal Americans Makes Way Toward Socialist Paradise Of Venezuela

    MEXICO—A migrant caravan full of leftists desiring to enter the socialist paradise of Venezuela departed the United States Thursday and began marching toward through Mexico, stating they will demand asylum so they might experience the far better life that socialism offers.

    The migrants claim they are leaving America because of its high standards of living, strong economy, and record employment numbers, and hope to find a better life in Venezuela's much more equitable system.

    "Everyone there has the same quantity of possessions and food," said one marcher. "Everyone makes millions of dollars, and very few people work. It's a real paradise." The refugees have complex motivations, but the vast majority simply want to see everything socialism has to offer after suffering the amazing benefits of capitalism for too long.

    Caravan organizers dispelled rumors that they were funded by Bernie Sanders, claiming the caravan was an organic grassroots movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Caravan Of Liberal Americans Makes Way Toward Socialist Paradise Of Venezuela

    MEXICO—A migrant caravan full of leftists desiring to enter the socialist paradise of Venezuela departed the United States Thursday and began marching toward through Mexico, stating they will demand asylum so they might experience the far better life that socialism offers.

    The migrants claim they are leaving America because of its high standards of living, strong economy, and record employment numbers, and hope to find a better life in Venezuela's much more equitable system.

    "Everyone there has the same quantity of possessions and food," said one marcher. "Everyone makes millions of dollars, and very few people work. It's a real paradise." The refugees have complex motivations, but the vast majority simply want to see everything socialism has to offer after suffering the amazing benefits of capitalism for too long.

    Caravan organizers dispelled rumors that they were funded by Bernie Sanders, claiming the caravan was an organic grassroots movement.
    They left without waiting for carpe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Caravan Of Liberal Americans Makes Way Toward Socialist Paradise Of Venezuela

    MEXICO—A migrant caravan full of leftists desiring to enter the socialist paradise of Venezuela departed the United States Thursday and began marching toward through Mexico, stating they will demand asylum so they might experience the far better life that socialism offers.

    The migrants claim they are leaving America because of its high standards of living, strong economy, and record employment numbers, and hope to find a better life in Venezuela's much more equitable system.

    "Everyone there has the same quantity of possessions and food," said one marcher. "Everyone makes millions of dollars, and very few people work. It's a real paradise." The refugees have complex motivations, but the vast majority simply want to see everything socialism has to offer after suffering the amazing benefits of capitalism for too long.

    Caravan organizers dispelled rumors that they were funded by Bernie Sanders, claiming the caravan was an organic grassroots movement.
    I feel that these sort of posts need the sarcasm tag. There are probably lots of posters here who are not familiar with the Babylon Bee.

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