Are Thoughts Causal?

[shunyadragon]

The only thing the evidence shows is that there is relation of dependence (of some sort) between the mind and the brain. Your supposed evidence that the mind is a product of the brain is just as absent as the evidence for any other theory.

For beginning the following is a start for the scientific view:

Source: https://www.aaas.org/programs/dialogue-science-ethics-and-religion/neuroscience-brain-mind

Neuroscience, Brain & Mind

© Copyright Original Source

More to follow . . .

[shunyadragon]

more to follow. . .

There are many conferences cited in these conferences on Neuroscience and the relationship between the brain and the mind.

https://www.aaas.org/search?

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It is well documented and supported by brain scans that the relationship between the brain and the mind is the only relationship that has been documented. The relationship between brain injury, genetic defects, drugs, mental illnesses have shown this relationship.

[JonathanL]

You might want to fix your link, cause it's broken.

[Sparko]

You might want to fix your link, cause it's broken.

its an argument by weblink anyway which is against our rules.

[shunyadragon]

its an argument by weblink anyway which is against our rules.

It was NOT just an argument from web link I gave an intro, and a description of the research in the conferences. It is the long list of conferences and research articles on the subject. I did give a summary of some of the articles I looked at. It is unfortunate that you do not want to your own homework on the science. Up to now you have presented nothing. I gave a good article from AAAS that described much of the current research and evidence on the subject, some of the ethical problems of the research, and it was ignored.

It is well documented and supported by brain scans that the relationship between the brain and the mind is the only relationship that has been documented. The relationship between brain injury, genetic defects, drugs, mental illnesses have shown this relationship.

https://www.aaas.org/programs/dialog...nce-brain-mind

This web link leads to the others if one wants read the many research articles on the subject.

As an alternative I may cite a selective few of the hundreds in the conferences, because after check getting to the conference articles takes some effort,

more to follow. . .

[Sparko]

It was NOT just an argument from web link I gave an intro, and a description of the research in the conferences. It is the long list of conferences and research articles on the subject. I did give a summary of some of the articles I looked at. It is unfortunate that you do not want to your own homework on the science. Up to now you have presented nothing. I gave a good article from AAAS that described much of the current research and evidence on the subject, some of the ethical problems of the research, and it was ignored.

It is well documented and supported by brain scans that the relationship between the brain and the mind is the only relationship that has been documented. The relationship between brain injury, genetic defects, drugs, mental illnesses have shown this relationship.

https://www.aaas.org/programs/dialog...nce-brain-mind

This web link leads to the others if one wants read the many research articles on the subject.

As an alternative I may cite a selective few of the hundreds in the conferences, because after check getting to the conference articles takes some effort,

more to follow. . .

merely making an assertion and listing a search result is argument by weblink.

Let me try.

The mind is separate from the brain.

https://www.google.com/search?client...30.afSO9nNUYSw

[shunyadragon]

merely making an assertion and listing a search result is argument by weblink.

Let me try.

The mind is separate from the brain.

https://www.google.com/search?client...30.afSO9nNUYSw

I cited an actual article that describes actual research concerning the relationship of the brain and the mind, I will cite more, and you cite a juck list (arguing by web link with no explanation) that provides nothing of sort.

For example:

https://psychology.stackexchange.com...d-are-separate

The best is probably the first, but it is just a philosophical discussion on the hypothetical possibilities and no research was referenced. Will keep this on file for further discussion.

The third on the list is a Buddhist reference on their beliefs. https://www.reddit.com/r/Buddhism/co...rom_the_brain/

This one http://www.cogsci.rpi.edu/~heuveb/te...odyProblem.pdf does not remotely support your view.

It goes down hill from there.

[Sparko]

I cited an actual article that describes actual research concerning the relationship of the brain and the mind, I will cite more, and you cite a juck list (arguing by web link with no explanation) that provides nothing of sort.

For example:

https://psychology.stackexchange.com...d-are-separate

The best is probably the first, but it is just a philosophical discussion on the hypothetical possibilities and no research was referenced. Will keep this on file for further discussion.

The third on the list is a Buddhist reference on their beliefs. https://www.reddit.com/r/Buddhism/co...rom_the_brain/

This one http://www.cogsci.rpi.edu/~heuveb/te...odyProblem.pdf does not remotely support your view.

It goes down hill from there.

Linking articles as your argument IS argument by weblink you ninny.

You need to make a point, then quote from your source the relevant parts that support your point and then give a link. You can't just make a claim then link to an article.

[rogue06]

Linking articles as your argument IS argument by weblink you ninny.

You need to make a point, then quote from your source the relevant parts that support your point and then give a link. You can't just make a claim then link to an article.

You are supposed to provide a short summary of what the link says and that can be as short as a single sentence. The only exception is for OPs

[seer]

You are supposed to provide a short summary of what the link says and that can be as short as a single sentence. The only exception is for OPs

You are assuming that Shuny understands what he linked...

[Leonhard]

Are thoughts causal? I think so!

[shunyadragon]

Are thoughts causal? I think so!

OK, based on your religious belief.

[shunyadragon]

You are supposed to provide a short summary of what the link says and that can be as short as a single sentence. The only exception is for OPs

It was provided as a list of conferences and research as a companion article cited. No one has responded to the excellent artcle cited, and like you, ignoring the vast amount of research on the relationship between the brain and the mind. Of course you failed to note Sparkos posting by web links iwth literally bogus references, and not even a sentence explaining them. I described a few and found he was clueless as to the content.

I also corrected that I would cite individual research from the list. I do not believe that Sparko has volunteered to do so, and acknowledge that he was clueless to what he posted.

[shunyadragon]

You are assuming that Shuny understands what he linked...

I see no response to the extensive article that described the re=search on the relationship between the brain and the mind.

Still waiting. . .

[JimL]

You're actually supposed to provide some of that supposed evidence after making such an assertion. So we can have a look at it and seeing if it actually points to the conclusion that you claim.

Pansychism Chrawnus. It is the theory that mind is inherent in matter. It's not new, but it's catching on with many in the field.