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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post
    Psst! We're trying NOT to further derail the thread.
    OOoooops... you're correctomundo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post
    Psst! We're trying NOT to further derail the thread.
    hmm, I thought that was in scope - neither party seems truly capable of dealing with it? Republicans can't because their power/money base will not accept it even if true? Democrats can't because their solutions will wreck civilization? I guess I don't really understand what he's looking for then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    So barring this I just don't see how Conservatives could even deal with a world where Global Warming was happening.

    What do you guys think? Can the only political response to Global Warming by Conservatives in the US be to deny it?
    I simply want to see ---

    A) What can realistically be done
    2) What guaranty is there that A) will actually do anything measurable

    Simple cost/benefit analysis.

    What I see are tremendous threats of cataclysmic events on the horizon, but we've seen these threats before, and they've failed to materialize.

    Meanwhile, I'll continue to do what I can in my power to be more green, both at home and at work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    I dont think its quite that simple. They might care, but to be repulican thay cant say so or they must be very careful what they say about it because the power base of tge republican party is firmly aligned with/duped by anti-AGW pseudo science.

    I do think wonder if either political party is capable of finding workable solutions to the problem. The extremism that is often found on the left when it comes to environmental issues is often no better than the environmentally abusive mindset often found in big business.
    True, but, if by "the power base" you mean the base constituency, that base is following their political leaders and their corporate backers, not the actual science of climate change. So, why are the conservatives feigning deniability, pretending it's a hoax, and lying to their constituents? Money and power! The democrat party does have solutions, such as the Paris accords which took a democratic President to pull together and a republican one to tear down. It doesn't matter what solutions are presented, the conservatives will shoot them down. It's hard to argue that the left has been too extreme when the science indicates that we are running out of time. The problem as usual is money, power and greed, not to mention the stupidity of the people who are so thoughtlessly led by those who have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLamebrain View Post
    The problem as usual is money, power and greed, not to mention the stupidity of the people who are so thoughtlessly led by those who have it.
    That almost reads like a self-confession, Jimmy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    True, but, if by "the power base" you mean the base constituency, that base is following their political leaders and their corporate backers, not the actual science of climate change. So, why are the conservatives feigning deniability, pretending it's a hoax, and lying to their constituents? Money and power! The democrat party does have solutions, such as the Paris accords which took a democratic President to pull together and a republican one to tear down. It doesn't matter what solutions are presented, the conservatives will shoot them down. It's hard to argue that the left has been too extreme when the science indicates that we are running out of time. The problem as usual is money, power and greed, not to mention the stupidity of the people who are so thoughtlessly led by those who have it.
    You are correct in that the problems on the left are emotional over-reaction and to a certain extent fiscal irresponsibility, while the problem on the right is science denial and putting immediate corporate profit interests above the long term good of our civilization.

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