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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    I pocke this post at random to offer this update. I had said earlier that I would bet there weee a lot of memos like the one the UK ambassador sent. That has been confirmed in a photo op with other ambassadors shiwing sokidarity with tgeir UK counterpart.

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    Diplomats from around the world told CNN the image didn't just symbolize solidarity, it also reflected the fact that most embassies have written cables very similar to the private messages -- leaked in an act of political sabotage -- that Darroch had sent to London describing the President and his administration as inept, insecure and incompetent.

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    That probkem is that the memo represents the assassment of the world, not a petty outburst by this ambassador.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrift View Post
    I think my mind broke a little reading this post.
    What do you mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    That stark reality is that the memo represents the assessment of the world, not a petty outburst by this ambassador.

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    Sad but true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zymologist View Post
    What do you mean?
    Oh, looks like he edited the post I replied to. The original was barely comprehensible. Must have been in a rush, or typing on a phone without spellcheck or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    Until the Trump White House and the "fake news" mantra, "sources say" was a common journalism tool fairly readily accepted.
    Yes, and over the past several years, the mainstream media has abused the hell out of the tradition of "anonymous" sourcing to tell flat out lies, so it is reasonable, I think, to hesitate to trust any story that doesn't name names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Yes, and over the past several years, the mainstream media has abused the hell out of the tradition of "anonymous" sourcing to tell flat out lies, so it is reasonable, I think, to hesitate to trust any story that doesn't name names.
    Again - I would be interested in citations for these "flatout lies." I must have missed them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    I picked this post at random to offer this update. I had said earlier that I would bet there were a lot of memos like the one the UK ambassador sent. That has been confirmed in a photo op with other ambassadors from our allies showing solidarity with their UK counterpart.

    Source: CNN

    Diplomats from around the world told CNN the image didn't just symbolize solidarity, it also reflected the fact that most embassies have written cables very similar to the private messages -- leaked in an act of political sabotage -- that Darroch had sent to London describing the President and his administration as inept, insecure and incompetent.

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    That stark reality is that the memo represents the assessment of the world, not a petty outburst by this ambassador.

    Jim
    Right... you're far too gullible for your own good.

    First of all, "Diplomats from around the world told CNN..."

    OK, but which diplomats? Let's continue reading the story:

    "...a European official familiar with Washington..."
    "...one embassy official..."
    "One person familiar with the situation..."
    "Several diplomats..."
    "...one current ambassador in Washington..."

    Yep, looks like more "sources say" BS to me.

    Even if we give them the benefit of the doubt that they really did talk to real people, it looks like they only interviewed at most five people (if we're being generous) who support the narrative they wanted to tell and ran with it. There is hardly room in the story to fit in your sweeping generalization that Darroch's petty little screed necessarily reflects the sentiments of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    Again - I would be interested in citations for these "flatout lies." I must have missed them.
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    Than a fool in the eyes of God


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    Quote Originally Posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    Again - I would be interested in citations for these "flatout lies." I must have missed them.
    They did provide a few examples and it is not surprising that such examples exist. The hard part is to justify the general conclusion that all those uses are "fake news". I don't assume all people are lying all the time though some people certainly lie sometimes. The hard part is knowing when and how.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Right... you're far too gullible for your own good.

    First of all, "Diplomats from around the world told CNN..."

    OK, but which diplomats? Let's continue reading the story:

    "...a European official familiar with Washington..."
    "...one embassy official..."
    "One person familiar with the situation..."
    "Several diplomats..."
    "...one current ambassador in Washington..."

    Yep, looks like more "sources say" BS to me.

    Even if we give them the benefit of the doubt that they really did talk to real people, it looks like they only interviewed at most five people (if we're being generous) who support the narrative they wanted to tell and ran with it. There is hardly room in the story to fit in your sweeping generalization that Darroch's petty little screed necessarily reflects the sentiments of the world.
    Denial is a comfortable place I suppose.


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