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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Cant help but notice the quote of mountain man where he is bald face lying about me. So, it's like this. Mountain man is on ignore primarily to keep things more peaceful here. But if he will be allowed to lie taking advantage of the situation, then Ill have to pull him back off of ignore.

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    Oh really... so you believe that someone can be informed and still support and defend the President in good faith? That we're not compromising our Christiani values when we do so? Does this mean that in the future, you are going to refrain from using one's Christianity as a bludgeon against their support of the President?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Such as undermining the very system of government that you knuckleheads claim to love, i.e. democracy. He attacks the Institutions thereof, the Judiciary, the media/free press, labeling them as "the enemy of the people," he praises the beating of journalists, he attacks the electoral process, falsely claiming voter fraud by the opposition, he constantly demonizes the opposition, he calls for the jailing of political opponents and hints at pardoning political allies, He fires investigators, including the Head of the FBI, when he is under investigation, he fires his own appointed Atty.General for recusing himself and refusing to fire the Special Coucil investigating Russian attacks on the election, the special council to the president has to resign rather than illegally aid in the Presidents obstruction of justice, he defends a Russian adversary who attacked our democratic process while undermining his own Intelligence agencies, he has done nothing to deter such foriegn interference in future elections, he praises dictators around the world who go on to emulate his dictatorial style. Trump is an authoritarian-minded demagogue who is signaling to the free world that authoritarianism is the way to go.

    That's just for beginners, he's also as crooked as they come .

    This kind of thing would never have been stood for in the past, but the problem is he has support, and you're it!
    I've voted for Democrats and Republicans. I vote for who I think will make the best President and Hillary Clinton wasn't it.

    I have never seen the type of hatred coming from Democrats that I see today. Hatred so strong that some Republicans are afraid to wear a certain hat or display a certain bumper sticker or go into a restaurant, etc. This type of hatred kills.

    If you don't like Trump, then vote him out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Call it what you will, CP, but I call undermining our system of government treasonous.
    So then anyone trying to undermine the electoral college would be a traitor, right? And all those people like AOC and Bernie who want to turn our government into a socialist state?

    Welcome to the Republican Party, JimL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Call it what you will, CP, but I call undermining our system of government treasonous.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    So then anyone trying to undermine the electoral college would be a traitor, right? And all those people like AOC and Bernie who want to turn our government into a socialist state?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Can you dial down the hysteria just long enough to identify which of those was treasonous?
    They are 'treasonous' in that they are a persistent attack on institutions that have long been integral to our distinctive as a nation that values truth and criticism of our government, that values the concept 'no one is above the law'. Without a free press, without out an impartial judiciary (or at least an attempt an an impartial judiciary) we LOSE critical elements that have 'made America Great', and not in the financial and military sense where Trump is focused. But the ideological underpinnings of our nation.

    What makes America great is NOT its wealth, nor it might. There have been wealthy nations, and there have been powerful nations. What makes this nation great is the ideology behind it, the concept of freedom and justice for all, a government by the people and for the people, a nation where ANYONE can become president, and where NO-ONE is above the law.

    Trump claims to want to "make america great again" while with each hour of his presidency he attacks the true greatness of America - its ideological underpinnings.




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    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

    "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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    We consider a lie to be a poster knowingly and willfully making a statement they know to be untrue. If you call someone a liar you need to substantiate it. In order to substantiate an accusation of lying, it must be shown that the poster in question is stating something they know to be untrue. Opinions or facts that are in dispute should never be referred to as lies. Someone's faith or beliefs should also never be referred to as lying. We will not allow repeated accusations of lying. We will moderate any tossing out the term "liar" - and similar charges - when it is used in place of a response or as a mere insult to denigrate the other person, as judged by the moderators. We will also not allow repeated posts calling someone a liar, accusing them of lying, or claiming their post is a lie. If you wish to challenge the truth of someone's statement, then do so ONLY ONCE in the thread, and substantiate your claim IN THE SAME POST. Further discussion of the matter will only be allowed in the Padded Room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    So then anyone trying to undermine the electoral college would be a traitor, right? And all those people like AOC and Bernie who want to turn our government into a socialist state?

    Welcome to the Republican Party, JimL!
    Apparently you didn't read my post, or had trouble comprehending once again. Those would be democratic processes, not an autocrats undermining of the democratic process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian3 View Post
    I've voted for Democrats and Republicans. I vote for who I think will make the best President and Hillary Clinton wasn't it.

    I have never seen the type of hatred coming from Democrats that I see today. Hatred so strong that some Republicans are afraid to wear a certain hat or display a certain bumper sticker or go into a restaurant, etc. This type of hatred kills.

    If you don't like Trump, then vote him out.
    You asked what I meant by undermining our democracy, I told you, and you completely ignored it. Like I said, the problem is that he has support in this, and you're it! And btw, that post had nothing to do with Hillary, or the past, it had to do with Trump and what he is doing now. Try to get your brainwashed mind off of Hillary and speak to the facts as they exist now under Trump.

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    We consider a lie to be a poster knowingly and willfully making a statement they know to be untrue. If you call someone a liar you need to substantiate it. In order to substantiate an accusation of lying, it must be shown that the poster in question is stating something they know to be untrue. Opinions or facts that are in dispute should never be referred to as lies. Someone's faith or beliefs should also never be referred to as lying. We will not allow repeated accusations of lying. We will moderate any tossing out the term "liar" - and similar charges - when it is used in place of a response or as a mere insult to denigrate the other person, as judged by the moderators. We will also not allow repeated posts calling someone a liar, accusing them of lying, or claiming their post is a lie. If you wish to challenge the truth of someone's statement, then do so ONLY ONCE in the thread, and substantiate your claim IN THE SAME POST. Further discussion of the matter will only be allowed in the Padded Room.

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    If I understand your post, I am allowed to take exception once in this thread. This is that time. If a persons says "I believe X", then it makes perfect sense that I can't call that a lie. I have no way of knowing what that person actually believes. However, if a person says "oxmixmudd believes X" without first hand knowledge that is what I believe, then it is the other person that has no clue what they are talking about. Now, if that person says "I believe oxmixmudd believes X", that would be subject to the first rule. That is their belief, and I can't say one way or the other if that is true. But if a person says "oxmixmudd believes X", and they don't know that by my own declaration, then they are not telling the truth, because they are stating as fact that which they have no way of knowing. That is, for the same reason I cant know if MM's statment of belief about something is true, neither can MM know what I believe unless I tell him.

    But this is one step further. MM knows I don't believe what he claimed I believe, because I have repeatedly denounced such characterizations of my belief. So It's a lie, because he knows that is not what I believe, and because he did not qualify his statement as being his own belief, it is not subject to being excused as merely being his belief. Therefore, he has stated as a fact that which he knows not to be true - [I]the definition of a lie[/B].



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    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

    "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    You asked what I meant by undermining our democracy, I told you, and you completely ignored it. Like I said, the problem is that he has support in this, and you're it! And btw, that post had nothing to do with Hillary, or the past, it had to do with Trump and what he is doing now. Try to get your brainwashed mind off of Hillary and speak to the facts as they exist now under Trump.
    How bout getting back on topic, which is the collapse of ratings at CNN.
    Every problem is the result of a previous solution.

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