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Here in the Philosophy forum we will talk about all the "why" questions. We'll have conversations about the way in which philosophy and theology and religion interact with each other. Metaphysics, ontology, origins, truth? They're all fair game so jump right in and have some fun! But remember...play nice!
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The relationship between the brain, mind, thoughts, and consciousness.
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Originally posted by Anomaly View PostOkay, but I think you're deceiving yourself in your assumption that methodological naturalism "deals only with the science of our physical existence." We are not beings who can switch off our intuitive and prescriptive side to set our brains to rationalize in purely mechanistic ways re scientific pursuits.The pledging allegiance to science is, despite your objection, not a foolish accusation at all. I watched a TED talk today by David Eagleman a neuroscientist at Stanford who coined the phrase Possibilism, the position that replaces "agnostic" with what he feels is a more positive approach to the God question. He feels that we should consider the question of whether God exists from the standpoint of our current knowledge, hence, because we can't with current scientific knowledge rule God out, God must be at least a possibility.
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Originally posted by Anomaly View PostSo be it. I rest my case; your reply is consistent with Eagleman's and scores of others who fall under the umbrella of theological Materialism as a religious [value] construct, all of which are predicted responses within the hypothesis of value mechanics.
Good luck in your search for truth Shunyadragon, God bless.
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Originally posted by MaxVel View PostI don't think anyone here denies that there is a relationship.
The questions of interest are: Just what is the nature of that relationship? What exactly is the mind? Can consciousness be explained at all by science (this is the hard problem)?
The answers to those questions are largely philosophical, not 'scientific'. The scientific research you're presenting makes a number of assumptions about the metaphysics of the mind and related matters, so it's not actually going to answer the questions people are actually interested in.
But it's your thread, fire away posting research that overlooks the questions of actual interest.
Until we've settled the metaphysical questions around the hard problem, we can't make any coherent sense of any research. Depending on what the answer to the problem is, it may not even be relevant at all.
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Originally posted by Jim B. View PostI've given up trying to have discussions with Shunyadragon. He has trouble comprehending what he reads and then tries to hide his miscomprehension by stubbornly digging in deeper into his mistaken position and repeating mantra-like the shreds of scientific data he's copied and pasted that usually don't even apply to the matter at hand.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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