Americans Strongly Dislike PC Culture

[Cow Poke]

I think condemning Andrew Jackson is easier than condemning Jefferson (well, not in a theological sense. All Christians should condemn Jefferson for cutting up the Bible and taking out all the supernatural parts) because the Trail of Tears was widely recognized as wrong even at that time, and Jackson ignored the Supreme Court telling him he could not send the Indians on their way (a lack of respect for the rule of law).

That is, indeed, quite problematic for me.

[Sparko]

Jefferson. Isn't he that black guy who moved on up to the East Side?

[seer]

Jefferson. Isn't he that black guy who moved on up to the East Side?

[Mountain Man]

Jefferson. Isn't he that black guy who moved on up to the East Side?

Jefferson was the guy who liked his slaves... if ya know what I mean...

[One Bad Pig]

Jefferson was a guy who liked his slaves... if ya know what I mean...

Fixed that for you. What Jefferson did was quite common (and has no doubt been common throughout the history of slavery - the Romans certainly had no compunctions about the practice).

[Mountain Man]

Fixed that for you. What Jefferson did was quite common (and has no doubt been common throughout the history of slavery - the Romans certainly had no compunctions about the practice).

I'm still a bit amused how Jefferson's white ancestors got their noses out of joint when his black ancestors wanted their claim to fame as being descendants of Thomas Jefferson.

[One Bad Pig]

I'm still a bit amused how Jefferson's white ancestors got their noses out of joint when his black ancestors wanted their claim to fame as being descendants of Thomas Jefferson.

It hearkens back to a time when legitimacy mattered.

[Charles]

Fixed that for you. What Jefferson did was quite common (and has no doubt been common throughout the history of slavery - the Romans certainly had no compunctions about the practice).

It was common but still completely wrong by objective standards.

[One Bad Pig]

It was common but still completely wrong by objective standards.

Well, yes.

[Cow Poke]

It was common but still completely wrong by objective standards.

Thank you, Major Obvious.

[Sparko]

Thank you, Major Obvious.

He seems to be on a kick trying to derail every thread he posts in to a different topic. He was trying to derail the Toxic Masculinity thread onto "kids in cages" and this one onto "subjective v objective morality" - just ignore the troll

[Cow Poke]

He seems to be on a kick trying to derail every thread he posts in to a different topic. He was trying to derail the Toxic Masculinity thread onto "kids in cages" and this one onto "subjective v objective morality" - just ignore the troll

Troll? Do YOU see a Troll? I don't see a Troll! But I DID tot I taw a PUDDYTAT!!!!

[oxmixmudd]

Fixed that for you. What Jefferson did was quite common (and has no doubt been common throughout the history of slavery - the Romans certainly had no compunctions about the practice).

I don't think that can be excused. That would not have been actually accepted by the culture of the time. People might have looked the other way, but it would have been considered wrong, whereas having the slaves would not have been.


Jim

[One Bad Pig]

I don't think that can be excused. That would not have been actually accepted by the culture of the time. People might have looked the other way, but it would have been considered wrong, whereas having the slaves would not have been.


Jim

I'm not sure I want to ask where you got the idea I'm trying to excuse his behavior.

[oxmixmudd]

I'm not sure I want to ask where you got the idea I'm trying to excuse his behavior.

What Jefferson did was quite common (and has no doubt been common throughout the history of slavery - the Romans certainly had no compunctions about the practice).

How is that not providing the equivalent of the common excuse "Everyone else was doing it!" ?

My point about the culture is not to say that what is right or wrong is defined by what most people were doing. It is to say we have to measure their moral actions against the moral standards of the day. Against what people were taught and what they believed, at the time, to be right and wrong.


Jim