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    Americans Strongly Dislike PC Culture

    Americans Strongly Dislike PC Culture

    On social media, the country seems to divide into two neat camps: Call them the woke and the resentful. Team Resentment is manned—pun very much intended—by people who are predominantly old and almost exclusively white. Team Woke is young, likely to be female, and predominantly black, brown, or Asian (though white “allies” do their dutiful part). These teams are roughly equal in number, and they disagree most vehemently, as well as most routinely, about the catchall known as political correctness.

    Reality is nothing like this. As scholars Stephen Hawkins, Daniel Yudkin, Miriam Juan-Torres, and Tim Dixon argue in a report published Wednesday, “Hidden Tribes: A Study of America’s Polarized Landscape,” most Americans don’t fit into either of these camps. They also share more common ground than the daily fights on social media might suggest—including a general aversion to PC culture.

    The study was written by More in Common, an organization founded in memory of Jo Cox, the British MP who was murdered in the run-up to the Brexit referendum. It is based on a nationally representative poll with 8,000 respondents, 30 one-hour interviews, and six focus groups conducted from December 2017 to September 2018.

    If you look at what Americans have to say on issues such as immigration, the extent of white privilege, and the prevalence of sexual harassment, the authors argue, seven distinct clusters emerge: progressive activists, traditional liberals, passive liberals, the politically disengaged, moderates, traditional conservatives, and devoted conservatives.

    According to the report, 25 percent of Americans are traditional or devoted conservatives, and their views are far outside the American mainstream. Some 8 percent of Americans are progressive activists, and their views are even less typical. By contrast, the two-thirds of Americans who don’t belong to either extreme constitute an “exhausted majority.” Their members “share a sense of fatigue with our polarized national conversation, a willingness to be flexible in their political viewpoints, and a lack of voice in the national conversation.”

    Most members of the “exhausted majority,” and then some, dislike political correctness. Among the general population, a full 80 percent believe that “political correctness is a problem in our country.” Even young people are uncomfortable with it, including 74 percent ages 24 to 29, and 79 percent under age 24. On this particular issue, the woke are in a clear minority across all ages.

    Youth isn’t a good proxy for support of political correctness—and it turns out race isn’t, either.

    Whites are ever so slightly less likely than average to believe that political correctness is a problem in the country: 79 percent of them share this sentiment. Instead, it is Asians (82 percent), Hispanics (87 percent), and American Indians (88 percent) who are most likely to oppose political correctness. As one 40-year-old American Indian in Oklahoma said in his focus group, according to the report:

    It seems like everyday you wake up something has changed … Do you say Jew? Or Jewish? Is it a black guy? African-American? … You are on your toes because you never know what to say. So political correctness in that sense is scary.
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    I voted, but it probably doesn't count, because I'm not American.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mossrose View Post
    I voted, but it probably doesn't count, because I'm not American.

    But you're one of us, so...
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    I'm a proud member of the PC Master Race....






    ...Oh wait, you were talking about the other kind of PC?


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    PC stands for Protestant Christian, right?
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    Political Correctness is a loaded term. It basically means "speech regulation that I don't like".

    There's "Political Correctness" on this forum, there are certain words that can't be said, discussions that can't be had, images that can't be linked to etc. If you want a free speech forum go to 4chan, there you'll find pedophilia cartoons, industrial accidents gloried in, hyper explicit racism, and so forth. Anything less than that could in some fashion be considered "Politically Correct"

    So while I get that Conservatives have gripes about some toxic Leftists deeming some things microaggressions, or threatening people for not using a preferred pronoun, we shouldn't forget that there was a time when the Moral Majority wanted to regulate all manner of things and whether they could be shown in television.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    Political Correctness is a loaded term. It basically means "speech regulation that I don't like".

    There's "Political Correctness" on this forum, there are certain words that can't be said, discussions that can't be had, images that can't be linked to etc. If you want a free speech forum go to 4chan, there you'll find pedophilia cartoons, industrial accidents gloried in, hyper explicit racism, and so forth. Anything less than that could in some fashion be considered "Politically Correct"

    So while I get that Conservatives have gripes about some toxic Leftists deeming some things microaggressions, or threatening people for not using a preferred pronoun, we shouldn't forget that there was a time when the Moral Majority wanted to regulate all manner of things and whether they could be shown in television.
    Right, many people claim to be for absolute freedom of speech. Few are in practice, and those who are I generally don't want to be around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    Right, many people claim to be for absolute freedom of speech. Few are in practice, and those who are I generally don't want to be around.
    I'm certainly not for total freedom of speech. But I think we can get downright nutty with the limitations, and I think that's what this topic is all about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    I'm certainly not for total freedom of speech. But I think we can get downright nutty with the limitations, and I think that's what this topic is all about.
    You'll get no disagreement from me that 'political correctness' is a bad thing, whether it is practiced overtly as on the left, or implicitly as it is on the right. Free speech itself has somewhat been perverted. It's not really about being able to put a crucifix in pee and call it 'art'. It's about the ability to speak the truth, or more importantly what one believes to be the truth, about a politician or the government without reprisal from the same or those that stand with that person or that implement that government.

    Free speech, as originally envisioned, is endangered from all sides by 'political correctness'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    I'm certainly not for total freedom of speech. But I think we can get downright nutty with the limitations, and I think that's what this topic is all about.
    If you go on places like Reddit and 4chan, there are plenty of people who are passionate about freedom of speech/PC culture, and they like to go out of their way to push as many of those buttons as possible, to the point where freedom of speech becomes almost associated with the freedom to promote racism, pedophilia, and bullying. I think this is a big reason why some people who are generally reasonable still conclude that PC culture is generally a good thing.
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