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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrift View Post
    There are a number of us on the forum. What do you want to talk about?
    He seems to be incapable of understanding that somebody who voted for Trump nearly 4 years ago is not necessarily a Trump supporter today. Perhaps you can help him understand that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlejoe View Post
    Whatever dude. Who's not answering honestly now?

    If you don't know, then just say so...
    Using the office to pad his own pockets, making people stay in his properties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    He seems to be incapable of understanding that somebody who voted for Trump nearly 4 years ago is not necessarily a Trump supporter today. Perhaps you can help him understand that.
    If you aren't a Trump supporter then you and I have no disagreements. Are you willing be disavow Trump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy View Post
    Told 4 Congress women to go back to their own country. They are Americans.
    Offensive sure....(though technically one of them isn't originally from this country) immoral though? I don't see it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy View Post
    Conspiring with foreign governments to affect IS elections doesn't seem immoral to you?
    Mmmmm...no, Not really... So, I guess if someone who is well connected in government, say....like the son of a ex-VPOTUS, does something that is "shady" in a foreign country, the president doesn't have the right to know about it? Or, if he does know about it, he can only learn about it from his own intelligence people...who of course, may very well may learn about it from foreign spies...in a foreign gov't...which is how these things often work.
    "What has the Church gained if it is popular, but there is no conviction, no repentance, no power?" - A.W. Tozer

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  6. Amen Cow Poke, Cerebrum123, RumTumTugger amen'd this post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlejoe View Post
    Offensive sure....(though technically one of them isn't originally from this country) immoral though? I don't see it.


    Mmmmm...no, Not really... So, I guess if someone who is well connected in government, say....like the son of a ex-VPOTUS, does something that is "shady" in a foreign country, the president doesn't have the right to know about it? Or, if he does know about it, he can only learn about it from his own intelligence people...who of course, may very well may learn about it from foreign spies...in a foreign gov't...which is how these things often work.
    Okay, this is why I didn't want to do this with you. Go ahead and excuse everything. Whatever.

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    I'm tired of Christians hating me for daring to be against Trump's immorality.

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    Christians are supposed to be opposed to immorality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    I have a hard time believing that many evangelical Trump voters do not actually support him because there has been zero attempt to put forth an alternative in the primaries (there are a few primary candidates so far, but none who would be appealing to evangelicals). When I previously brought this up, the line has been that it is not normal for incumbents to be primaried, however, no less a person than Ronald Reagan challenged an incumbent president in the primaries.

    In any event, state GOPs are starting to cancel their primaries to protect Trump anyway.
    Reagan challenged Ford - are you kidding me? Ford's pardon of Nixon made him toxic even in his own party which was in large part why Ford was even vulnerable in the primaries. Picking one of histories most exceptional primaries (in more ways than one) as an example of "See? They did it!" is nonsensical. At least apples and oranges are both fruit - you'd have us believe we should expect cattle from this tree.

    Normally, running against your party's incumbent is done to garner name recognition and support for a later, serious run. Cancelling primaries where the expense outweighs the benefit has precedent - in both parties - and we're seeing the usual suspects. Despite the more colorful claims, Trump has no serious challengers at this point. Nor would the states in question make any difference in 'noise' or outcome - I can't recall the last time a Kansas primary was more than a footnote in national news.

    It IS unusual to see four cancel in the same election cycle, I grant - but none of them are states Trump would need to have canceled to 'protect' himself if he had a serious challenger - which he doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy View Post
    I'm tired of Christians hating me for daring to be against Trump's immorality.
    For the sarcastically impaired the following is said in jest

    It must be tiring to be so righteous that you can't allow others to be flawed. Perfection is only obtained by a few...I'm so glad you're already there...



    Yeah, you should just talk to Adrift, he's a good guy and he doesn't like Trump either (neither do I but, it looks like it some of you because I won't go into hysterics every time he hiccups....)

    Oxmixmudd is a lot like you, you to should get along swimmingly.

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    I don't think this "brother" will accept anything less than "I HATE TRUMP".

    He's very much like some of our anti-Christian bigots who are not here for fellowship, but to make false accusations and sew discord among the brethren. Kind of a litmus test -- "if you don't hate Trump as much as I do, you're not really a Christian".
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