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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrift View Post

    Who's Beth Moore?
    You really don't know who Beth Moore is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    The Bible doesn't really seem to explicitly state that gluttony is a sin the way it does with homosexuality, though. Even assuming it is, there's not really a "red line" the way there is with homosexuality. How much is too much?
    Maybe not...but, it's there.

    Deuteronomy 21:20
    20 They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.”

    Ezekiel 16:49
    49 “ ‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.

    Proverbs 23:2
    2 and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony.

    Proverbs 28:7
    7 A discerning son heeds instruction, but a companion of gluttons disgraces his father.

    Romans 13:14
    14 Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the flesh.

    Philippians 3:19
    19 Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is set on earthly things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    You really don't know who Beth Moore is?
    Nope. Should I?

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    Personally, I tend to view homosexual behavior as more disgusting than heterosexual immorality. But the fact is, it didn't make the top eight abominations of Proverbs 6:16-99:
    "haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are swift in running to mischief, a false witness who utters lies, and one who spreads strife among brothers."
    On the other hand, "haughty eyes" can be defined as pride, making it in itself, an abomination. Objectively, all immorality, pornography, lust, etc. are condemned, one not more than another. In the case of child porn or molestation, or adultery, there are victims. That becomes a different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrift View Post
    Nope. Should I?
    She's a popular woman author, primarily in (Southern?) Baptist circles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlejoe View Post
    Maybe not...but, it's there.

    Deuteronomy 21:20
    20 They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.”

    Ezekiel 16:49
    49 “ ‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.

    Proverbs 23:2
    2 and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony.

    Proverbs 28:7
    7 A discerning son heeds instruction, but a companion of gluttons disgraces his father.

    Romans 13:14
    14 Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the flesh.

    Philippians 3:19
    19 Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is set on earthly things.
    It's also one of the "seven deadly sins".
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    She's a popular woman author, primarily in (Southern?) Baptist circles.
    Ah. That explains it. I'm pretty out of the loop when it comes to a lot of pop Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    She's a popular woman author, primarily in (Southern?) Baptist circles.
    I didn't realize she was Southern Baptistish, but appears so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrift View Post
    You trailed off there. What were you going to say before the ellipses?
    Couldn't remember the exact scripture at the time...

    James 2:11 - For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

    Who's Beth Moore?
    What the Singular Excellent Porcine said.

    I go one step further and say that it's a sin to intentionally dwell on or flirt with temptation even if you don't commit to them in keeping with Christ's saying in Matthew 5:28.
    Absolutely agreed. I was typing quickly cause I was about to step into a meeting, and at my age, if you have a thought, you need to get it out there or it goes away.

    Yeah, that sounds reasonable to me.
    Only cause it is.

    I can't think of any on a national level. Perhaps the obesity acceptance/pride movement, but I don't think that's super popular outside of some blogs and magazines maybe. There's some odd practices coming out of Latin America where people are mixing pagan worship with Christianity and are celebrating it; I went into a Catholic-owned business recently that was also selling Santa Muerte/Saint Death candles. There are self-proclaimed Christians who are side worshiping death, and that ain't cool. Perhaps not ironically, there's an association with Santa Muerte worshipers and the LGBT community in Latin America.
    Yeah, I experienced some of that to a much smaller scale in Haiti.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    Heathen...
    OK, so not surprising.

    Are we splitting hairs?
    I don't really think so, and Adrift helped with clarification.... If I see a very scantily clad attractive woman*, it could certainly arouse some desires, so I'm best to look away, and/or get myself out of that situation. If I continue to oggle (what, that's not a word?) and think what I could do with that..... Lust is a very likely result.



    *I have seen some scantily clad UNATTRACTIVE women of late that make me.... um.... very negative reaction.
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