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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    Yes, the theory is moldy old, well, ah . . . at least as old as computers and a common theme of scifi. Tom Campbell advocates such a theory, but no it is not remotely advocated by the authors of this research as real depiction of the nature of our physical existence.
    um, yes it is, that is the whole central point of their theory. Did you even read their article? Without a holographic universe, their theory is non-existent.

    The holographic principle is widely regarded as an essential feature of a successful Theory of Everything. The holographic principle states that gravity in a three-dimensional volume can be described by quantum mechanics on a two-dimensional surface surrounding the volume. In particular, the three dimensions of the volume should emerge from the two dimensions of the surface. However, understanding the precise mechanics for the emergence of the volume from the surface has been elusive.

    Now, Ooguri and his collaborators have found that quantum entanglement is the key to solving this question. Using a quantum theory (that does not include gravity), they showed how to compute energy density, which is a source of gravitational interactions in three dimensions, using quantum entanglement data on the surface. This is analogous to diagnosing conditions inside of your body by looking at X-ray images on two-dimensional sheets.
    https://phys.org/news/2015-05-spacet...anglement.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    um, yes it is, that is the whole central point of their theory. Did you even read their article? Without a holographic universe, their theory is non-existent.

    The holographic principle is widely regarded as an essential feature of a successful Theory of Everything. The holographic principle states that gravity in a three-dimensional volume can be described by quantum mechanics on a two-dimensional surface surrounding the volume. In particular, the three dimensions of the volume should emerge from the two dimensions of the surface. However, understanding the precise mechanics for the emergence of the volume from the surface has been elusive.

    Now, Ooguri and his collaborators have found that quantum entanglement is the key to solving this question. Using a quantum theory (that does not include gravity), they showed how to compute energy density, which is a source of gravitational interactions in three dimensions, using quantum entanglement data on the surface. This is analogous to diagnosing conditions inside of your body by looking at X-ray images on two-dimensional sheets.
    https://phys.org/news/2015-05-spacet...anglement.html
    The holographic principle does not describe the universe as a hologram. It is a descriptive term used as an analogous parallel.

    Source: Holographic principle - Wikipedia
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    The holographic principle is a tenet of string theories and a supposed property of quantum gravity that states that the description of a volume of space can be thought of as encoded on a lower-dimensional boundary to the region—such as a light-like boundary like a gravitational horizon.

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    Source: https://www.google.com/search?ei=C1wvXdDQO4rPtQadhZKoDw&q=hologram+definition&oq=hologram&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.35i39j0i20i263j0l8.74598.78902..80788...0.0..0.122.1365.12j3....3..0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j0i67j0i131.CJDnyxfSdFk



    Hologram - a three-dimensional image formed by the interference of light beams from a laser or other coherent light source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    The holographic principle does not describe the universe as a hologram. It is a descriptive term used as an analogous parallel.

    Source: Holographic principle - Wikipedia
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle][/url]

    The holographic principle is a tenet of string theories and a supposed property of quantum gravity that states that the description of a volume of space can be thought of as encoded on a lower-dimensional boundary to the region—such as a light-like boundary like a gravitational horizon.

    © Copyright Original Source



    Source: https://www.google.com/search?ei=C1wvXdDQO4rPtQadhZKoDw&q=hologram+definition&oq=hologram&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.35i39j0i20i263j0l8.74598.78902..80788...0.0..0.122.1365.12j3....3..0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j0i67j0i131.CJDnyxfSdFk



    Hologram - a three-dimensional image formed by the interference of light beams from a laser or other coherent light source.

    © Copyright Original Source

    derp. Nobody is saying it is an actual hologram like we create on film - my comment about God's projector was a joke. But it is not exactly an analogy either. The theory actually suggests that the universe works similar to a hologram, that the universe is actually 2 dimensional with our 3D space encoded on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    derp. Nobody is saying it is an actual hologram like we create on film - my comment about God's projector was a joke. But it is not exactly an analogy either. The theory actually suggests that the universe works similar to a hologram, that the universe is actually 2 dimensional with our 3D space encoded on it.
    No, using the term 'similar' is the same as an 'analogy' when comparing to a hologram, just certain aspects may be analogous to a hologram. The universe may be described as a 3 dimensional with our 3D space encoded on it, and actually that is what it is. Science is descriptive.

    I am not sure where this is going, because science does propose that our physical existence is a hologram, except maybe Tom Campbell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    No, using the term 'similar' is the same as an 'analogy' when comparing to a hologram, just certain aspects may be analogous to a hologram. The universe may be described as a 3 dimensional with our 3D space encoded on it, and actually that is what it is. Science is descriptive.
    You might try actually reading the theory instead of just having a knee-jerk reaction to anything I say.

    I am not sure where this is going, because science does propose that our physical existence is a hologram, except maybe Tom Campbell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    You might try actually reading the theory instead of just having a knee-jerk reaction to anything I say.
    I provided the references and comments. Read them yourselves. I will possibly be posting more references.

    The only results of this research is the imaging documents the cause and effect relationship of the particles. It takes a bit of the mystery out of the entanglement problem.

    Contemporary research like referred to in this thread has revealed that quantum superposition can be explained based on the imaging of the events without the contradictions and problems proposed in the Copenhagen Interpretation.


    I may add to this with further references discussion on Quantum entanglement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    I provided the references and comments. Read them yourselves. I will possibly be posting more references.

    The only results of this research is the imaging documents the cause and effect relationship of the particles. It takes a bit of the mystery out of the entanglement problem.

    Contemporary research like referred to in this thread has revealed that quantum superposition can be explained based on the imaging of the events without the contradictions and problems proposed in the Copenhagen Interpretation.


    I may add to this with further references discussion on Quantum entanglement.

    You go girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    You go girl.
    You previously asserted that . . . "um, yes it is, that is the whole central point of their theory," which is not the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    You previously asserted that . . . "um, yes it is, that is the whole central point of their theory," which is not the case.
    I was mocking you. I stand by what I said, that you haven't a clue what you are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    I stand by what I said, that you haven't a clue what you are talking about.
    No, really?
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