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Originally posted by seer View PostWell Shuny, tell us exactly what this means from your link, or admit that you are once again posting stuff that you don't understand, while pretending that you do.
Nice informative citation, but still nothing cited that refutes nor contradicts anything I posted.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostNice informative citation, but still nothing cited that refutes nor contradicts anything I posted.
Now, Ooguri and his collaborators have found that quantum entanglement is the key to solving this question. Using a quantum theory (that does not include gravity), they showed how to compute energy density, which is a source of gravitational interactions in three dimensions, using quantum entanglement data on the surface. This is analogous to diagnosing conditions inside of your body by looking at X-ray images on two-dimensional sheets. This allowed them to interpret universal properties of quantum entanglement as conditions on the energy density that should be satisfied by any consistent quantum theory of gravity, without actually explicitly including gravity in the theory. The importance of quantum entanglement has been suggested before, but its precise role in emergence of spacetime was not clear until the new paper by Ooguri and collaborators.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostThen Shuny tell us exactly what this means or admit you have no idea...
Again, again, and again still waiting . . .
"Now, Ooguri and his collaborators have found that quantum entanglement is the key to solving this question. Using a quantum theory (that does not include gravity), they showed how to compute energy density, which is a source of gravitational interactions in three dimensions, using quantum entanglement data on the surface. This is analogous to diagnosing conditions inside of your body by looking at X-ray images on two-dimensional sheets. This allowed them to interpret universal properties of quantum entanglement as conditions on the energy density that should be satisfied by any consistent quantum theory of gravity, without actually explicitly including gravity in the theory. The importance of quantum entanglement has been suggested before, but its precise role in emergence of spacetime was not clear until the new paper by Ooguri and collaborators."
The highlighted in plan English is the significance of the ability of imaging to better to understand and use Quantum entanglement to explain 'any consistent quantum theory of gravity,' without including the gravity in the theory. In other words 'quantum entanglement' can potentially arrive at the theory of gravity on its own.
The work of Ooguri does not address the role of spacetime.
The methods 'showed how to compute energy densities of the particles' as a source if gravitational dimensions by imaging the two-dimensional surface.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThe citation is actually self explanatory, and reflects my previous citations, and is not in conflict with anything I previously stated. What Sparko and you have not done is 'quote' my previous posts and demonstrate anything that is in error by citing these articles or any other concerning Quantum entanglement.
Again, again, and again still waiting . . .
"Now, Ooguri and his collaborators have found that quantum entanglement is the key to solving this question. Using a quantum theory (that does not include gravity), they showed how to compute energy density, which is a source of gravitational interactions in three dimensions, using quantum entanglement data on the surface. This is analogous to diagnosing conditions inside of your body by looking at X-ray images on two-dimensional sheets. This allowed them to interpret universal properties of quantum entanglement as conditions on the energy density that should be satisfied by any consistent quantum theory of gravity, without actually explicitly including gravity in the theory. The importance of quantum entanglement has been suggested before, but its precise role in emergence of spacetime was not clear until the new paper by Ooguri and collaborators."
The highlighted in plan English is the significance of the ability of imaging to better to understand and use Quantum entanglement to explain 'any consistent quantum theory of gravity,' without including the gravity in the theory. In other words 'quantum entanglement' can potentially arrive at the theory of gravity on its own.
The work of Ooguri does not address the role of spacetime.
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"but its precise role in emergence of spacetime was not clear until the new paper by Ooguri and collaborators."Last edited by Sparko; 07-22-2019, 08:25 AM.
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[QUOTE=Sparko;652139]So Seer asks you to explain it and you just repeat it verbatim?
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The citation is actually self explanatory, and reflects my previous citations, and is not in conflict with anything I previously stated. What Sparko and you have not done is 'quote' my previous posts and demonstrate anything that is in error by citing these articles or any other concerning Quantum entanglement.
As I stated in the previous post:
The citation is actually self explanatory, and reflects my previous citations, and is not in conflict with anything I previously stated. What Sparko and you have not done is 'quote' my previous posts and demonstrate anything that is in error by citing these articles or any other concerning Quantum entanglement.
Again, again, and again still waiting . . . for a refutation of anything I posted based on references.
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"but its precise role in emergence of spacetime was not clear until the new paper by Ooguri and collaborators."
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostOriginally posted by Sparko View PostSo Seer asks you to explain it and you just repeat it verbatim?
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As I stated in the previous post:
The citation is actually self explanatory, and reflects my previous citations, and is not in conflict with anything I previously stated. What Sparko and you have not done is 'quote' my previous posts and demonstrate anything that is in error by citing these articles or any other concerning Quantum entanglement.
Again, again, and again still waiting . . . for a refutation of anything I posted based on references.
True I confirmed this, and it was not the intent of the research.
Shunya: The work of Ooguri does not address the role of spacetime.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostSo what you are saying is that Seer is correct and you can't explain what it means. [
No you did not "confirm this" - you denied this:
Shunya: The work of Ooguri does not address the role of spacetime.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThe citation is actually self explanatory, and reflects my previous citations, and is not in conflict with anything I previously stated. What Sparko and you have not done is 'quote' my previous posts and demonstrate anything that is in error by citing these articles or any other concerning Quantum entanglement.
You are correct I miss cited, thank you for the clarification on the error in my last post.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostSimply repeating yourself still isn't explaining that paragraph Seer asked you to explain. Looks like you can't to me. It's ok to admit it.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThe paragraph is self-explanatory, and needs no further explanation. I detect a deficiency in your English comprehension.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostIf it is so easy for you to understand then you should be able to paraphrase it for us luddites and explain what it means."Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."
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Originally posted by TheLurch View PostSince i know something about this stuff, i tried to back read to figure out what was at issue. I failed.
Shuny is claiming that the holographic theory is just an analogy and I was saying no, the theory claims that the universe is encoded in two dimensions like a hologram. I don't actually buy into the theory but was explaining to Shuny that is what the theory entails. When I commented that Shuny doesn't seem to understand what he is talking about, seer posted a paragraph from the paper and asked Shuny to explain it to him in simple language, at which point Shuny just repeated it verbatim and claimed that it was clear enough.
You are all caught up.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThe holographic theory of the universe and how quantum entanglement can help explain how it creates space/time. see Post #2.
Shuny is claiming that the holographic theory is just an analogy and I was saying no, the theory claims that the universe is encoded in two dimensions like a hologram. I don't actually buy into the theory but was explaining to Shuny that is what the theory entails. When I commented that Shuny doesn't seem to understand what he is talking about, seer posted a paragraph from the paper and asked Shuny to explain it to him in simple language, at which point Shuny just repeated it verbatim and claimed that it was clear enough.
You are all caught up.Last edited by shunyadragon; 05-16-2020, 03:46 PM.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post. . . and I cited the source describing the holographic model as 'similar,' as in analogy,and not that the universe is actually holographic, and The Lurch is more knowledgible than both of us and has no problem with my posts, and the sources. What really is your problem?
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